Dick Allen Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Aug 21, 2010 -> 03:31 PM) Don't the White Sox have any say in the matter? Who wants to start game 1 of a double header at 6 in the evening, start game 2 at around 10, then turn around and play another game at 1 in the afternoon the next day? It'll be tiring just watching that on tv. The choice was to play a twi night DH and start before 6 having one game not televised and losing that revenue or to have a split DH, start one at noon and another at 6. I'm sure if you ask the players, they would much prefer to have it scheduled like its scheduled if they aren't willing to lose a televised game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Supposedly major league baseball has a rule that any suspended game must be played after the next scheduled game at the earliest forcing them to play after the 6:00 game today. Playing a day game today was not an option. At least that's what I've heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 21, 2010 -> 04:31 PM) I'd bet money all of those guys have been on the wire already. All teams waive everyone at some point. Teams that are wanting to make moves are much more aggresive about it to mask players that could be moved. If that was the case, then wouldn't they probably have been claimed and pulled back already? Would that prevent the Sox from being able to make a trade because if they had to re-waive these players, then they would have to be put on irrevocable waivers, which then the only responsibility that the claiming team had was to take on the player's contract? If the the first case has already happened, then basically the only thing waivers can do is provide salary relief if the Sox are 7 games out come Sunday night. Edited August 21, 2010 by Elgin Slim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 This whole thing is f***ed.... There is no way they can win tonight, I'm sorry....f***ing A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 QUOTE (Elgin Slim @ Aug 21, 2010 -> 08:52 PM) Yeah seriously. If Garcia gets shelled in game 1, we could be 7 out of first by the end of the weekend, after which we would need to seriously consider moving guys like Konerko, Vizquel, and Putz on waivers. IMO Putz is going to get a big contract this offseason, and it's not going to be from the White Sox. I read in a book in 1967 the Sox were swept by KC in KC in September in a DH, effectively ending the season. 43 years later, the same happens tonight. No. 43 coincidentally was the number of Gary Peters, who pitched in that DH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 (edited) MDGonzales Guillen, on not bringing back Jackson to start game 2 and opting for Pena: "I'd rather lose a game than lose a pitcher." Well excuse me...you can't afford to lose games now! Season. Over. Edited August 21, 2010 by AWhiteSoxinNJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveBrown85 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 so are there two last calls during this game Or can the fans drink for 16 innings straight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 I agree we get swept, but you can't pitch Jackson; you just can't. Not in this day and age. He was used up yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Good for Ozzie! I'm proud of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Yep, I am too. You can't end Jackson's career over a DH loss. Get 'em next year, baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 QUOTE (AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Aug 21, 2010 -> 04:58 PM) Well excuse me...you can't afford to lose games now! Season. Over. Well, Ozzie DOES have a point, but I still think we baby the s*** out of pitchers (not just Sox, the whole league) so much. He threw 7 pitches yesterday. Yeah, I understand he had a warmup, but they have bullpen sessions during the week too. How much more of a workload could that be over the normal side sessions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Jackson's already had one incident this season that caused unnecessary stress on his arm. He didn't exacdtly respond well to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 21, 2010 -> 06:09 PM) Jackson's already had one incident this season that caused unnecessary stress on his arm. He didn't exacdtly respond well to that. And because of that it's "maybe next year" time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 21, 2010 -> 11:03 PM) Well, Ozzie DOES have a point, but I still think we baby the s*** out of pitchers (not just Sox, the whole league) so much. He threw 7 pitches yesterday. Yeah, I understand he had a warmup, but they have bullpen sessions during the week too. How much more of a workload could that be over the normal side sessions? Right or wrong, this is modern baseball. I watched a documentary last night saying there was a 16-inning game and Marichal and Koufax each pitched all 16 innings. Now we have this. A guy can't even complete a no hitter cause of pitch counts. If we pitch Jackson tonight and he gets hurt, which he would with our luck, no pitcher would ever pitch for the White Sox again. No agent would let his pitcher come to the south side. Edited August 21, 2010 by greg775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Chris Sale gets his first win tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 21, 2010 -> 06:18 PM) Chris Sale gets his first win next month. fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 (edited) If it's Pena and Freddy tonight, look for Kila and Butler and Gordon to have monumental evenings. Sit back, wait and wham! Edited August 21, 2010 by greg775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 (edited) We can totally afford to lose a game today...might as well make it two, right Oz? What a joke this organization is.... I hope we lose the division by one game, since, you know we can afford it.... Edited August 21, 2010 by Cali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 QUOTE (Cali @ Aug 21, 2010 -> 11:26 PM) We can totally afford to lose a game today...might as well make it two, right Oz? What a joke this organization is.... Why doesn't Sale start? Was he a starter in the minors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Wow, I'm used to negativity, but this is extreme. We're still playing the Royals, and don't forget we get to face Humber. Good news is that Twins are winning 7-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 No, Sale started in college, and he only pitched an inning or two at a time in the minors. QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 21, 2010 -> 05:27 PM) Why doesn't Sale start? Was he a starter in the minors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Even if he decision to pitch Pena works out, why couldn't they just send down Lillibridge since Teahen is back, and call up the pitcher they need? Then when 9-1 rolls around bring Brent back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoedairy Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 21, 2010 -> 05:30 PM) Wow, I'm used to negativity, but this is extreme. We're still playing the Royals, and don't forget we get to face Humber. Good news is that Twins are winning 7-3. agreed, its not an ideal situation but we havent lost yet. the offense could show up and maybe garcia throws a good game. those two things are possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 21, 2010 -> 06:30 PM) Wow, I'm used to negativity, but this is extreme. We're still playing the Royals, and don't forget we get to face Humber. Good news is that Twins are winning 7-3. I'd feel a little better if we were home but we totally suck in KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Three wins in the next 22 hours would be just swell. Let's do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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