Rowand44 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Dec 9, 2010 -> 07:44 PM) So I have a serious question for the MVC fans on the board. What is the reason that the MVC is so bad this year and why it has been on a decline the last few years (UNI last year notwithstanding)? Generally I assume it isn't recruiting in a mid major like it was for the Big 10 when the Big 10 was down so is it coaching turnover and bad hires? Well, Lowery has destroyed our program all by himself. Dana Altman left Creighton and he was the best coach in our league for years, and SIU and Creighton pretty much made the conference what it became so having those two programs not in the spotlight has to be hurting a bit. UNI and IlSU lost key players from good teams so they're both rebuilding a bit, and Bradley is just banged up this season. Drake, Evansville and Indiana State are just doing what they normally do, which is being awful. It'll be interesting to see where the conference goes from here because three years ago it was so much fun to watch and be apart of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Dec 9, 2010 -> 07:44 PM) So I have a serious question for the MVC fans on the board. What is the reason that the MVC is so bad this year and why it has been on a decline the last few years (UNI last year notwithstanding)? Generally I assume it isn't recruiting in a mid major like it was for the Big 10 when the Big 10 was down so is it coaching turnover and bad hires? Yeah, It just seems that this is a rebuilding year for the conference more than anything. The last couple years weren't really in decline if you ask me. WSU last year was a damn good team and probably should have made the tournament. The reason they haven't been getting multiple bids has nothing to do with the quality of the teams. Mid Major bids have gone down drastically the last few years for no apparent reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 QUOTE (danman31 @ Dec 10, 2010 -> 01:29 AM) Mizzou is really overrated. They're struggling against good, but not great teams and blew that Georgetown game. They might have the worst perimeter d in the country. i think you are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Woo, Iowa State - Iowa tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Dec 9, 2010 -> 07:28 PM) Considering they shredded the press 2 years ago that is simply false. They were awful against Mizzou last year but that is an outlier. Mizzou has only been good for 2 years under Anderson. That's 1-1. How do you know which is the outlier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 QUOTE (danman31 @ Dec 10, 2010 -> 04:03 PM) Mizzou has only been good for 2 years under Anderson. That's 1-1. How do you know which is the outlier? I'm just taking about Illinois against the press not Illinois against Mizzou. Illinois has also faced Clemson who presses a lot twice and hasn't had issues against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 10, 2010 Author Share Posted December 10, 2010 Crandall Head being redshirted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Pretty sure Lenzelle is being redshirted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 10, 2010 Author Share Posted December 10, 2010 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 10, 2010 -> 04:45 PM) Pretty sure Lenzelle is being redshirted. Sounds like his wrist is still giving him problems. Probably a good idea. Not going to play much anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 10, 2010 -> 05:37 PM) Crandall Head being redshirted? No, he has gotten playing time this year but its tough for him because he is playing behind 3 really really good guards, and then a SR wing and Richmond so there just isn't much PT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Iowa's program lists Iowa State's head coach as Tyler Otzelberger. We're off to a roaring start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Dear God, Iowa is an AWFUL second half team. I loooooove Scott Christopherson. Drops 30, 24 in the second half. Bet Tom Crean would have liked him to follow to Indiana. Big road win for Iowa State, I know Iowa is awful, but a big win for a team so young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Congrats on the win Heads, but Iowa St. might win the all-ugly team this year. At least The Mayor looks spiffy in his suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Tennessee is sure making me happy today. Up 14 over #3 Pitt at Pitt, but there's still plenty of time so I won't feel too comfortable yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Jay Bilas just reinforced why he has become one of my favorite basketball analysts (and I used to dislike him years ago). Only member of the national media who has given any sort of backing for Bruce Pearl. Thanks, Jay. Maybe everyone else will realize he didn't f***ing kill someone. Firing is not in order for lying but then coming back and admitting to it before it got out of hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Damn, that was a complete blowout by Tennessee. f*** all the Tennessee haters (including that writer who didn't even have us in his AP Top 25 poll this week). We just went into Pitt (which has lost 1 non-conference home game in like the last 8 years or something ridiculous like that) and completely dominated from start to finish. The final score (7 point lead) was the closest Pitt got in the entire 2nd half. UT has now beaten the top 2 Big East teams in Pitt and Villanova, and we've done it handily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 QUOTE (dasox24 @ Dec 11, 2010 -> 04:08 PM) Jay Bilas just reinforced why he has become one of my favorite basketball analysts (and I used to dislike him years ago). Only member of the national media who has given any sort of backing for Bruce Pearl. Thanks, Jay. Maybe everyone else will realize he didn't f***ing kill someone. Firing is not in order for lying but then coming back and admitting to it before it got out of hand. In most places, it actually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 11, 2010 -> 02:30 PM) Congrats on the win Heads, but Iowa St. might win the all-ugly team this year. At least The Mayor looks spiffy in his suit. It's still so much better than the McDermott crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 11, 2010 -> 05:59 PM) In most places, it actually is. Well, this isn't most places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 THIS IS TENNESSEE! NORMAL WORKPLACE RULES DON'T APPLY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 11, 2010 -> 05:20 PM) THIS IS TENNESSEE! NORMAL WORKPLACE RULES DON'T APPLY! Cheating and breaking the rules is the norm at Tennessee right? You're off your rocker if you think Pearl somehow is getting it worse than he deserves. He WILLFULLY broke rules. He LIED to the governing body of his chosen career path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 I know I'm off my rocker, but the caps were a version of green text (sarcasm). I was poking fun at dasox a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 11, 2010 -> 06:25 PM) Cheating and breaking the rules is the norm at Tennessee right? You're off your rocker if you think Pearl somehow is getting it worse than he deserves. He WILLFULLY broke rules. He LIED to the governing body of his chosen career path. When did I say he's getting it worse than he deserves? No really, tell me when I said that. I said he shouldn't be fired like some people have suggested. I agree that he has to serve his penalty. He broke the rules. I've never denied that. But I will never say it was something he should be fired for. Edit: I'm assuming here that even though you quoted nightni, you must have known his post was sarcastic, and therefore, are directing that 2nd comment at me. Edited December 11, 2010 by dasox24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 11, 2010 -> 06:27 PM) I know I'm off my rocker, but the caps were a version of green text (sarcasm). I was poking fun at dasox a little. I found it funny. "Ah yall, we're so backwoods down here in the holler that we don't follow rules. Heck, we marry our cousins" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Actually, it was more of a swipe at the SEC than a redneck joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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