hi8is Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Give the ball in the ninth to the hot hand. Yes, he's a rookie with only 6 weeks of minor leauge experience. Yes, he's only pitched like 16 innings in the bigs. Yes, he's thrown a lot of innings this year between college and the majors. Really thou - what other choice do we have? It'll never happen - but right now, Chris Sale is the only person in the ninth that I'd feel confident about. Bring on the hate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Hate? I think everyone agrees with you, but they know it's not going to happen. Can't really say I blame the Sox, as they have an idea of how often they want to use him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I don't think it matters who closes at this point. It's basically everyone taking a turn at blowing the save. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I'd give Santos a try before him. And even after this horrible outing, I say Bobby should still be the closer given the current state of the bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Santos will not be the closer this season. Ozzie has ZERO confidence in him due to the infamous "wall" he believes Santos has hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted August 31, 2010 Author Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 04:15 AM) I'd give Santos a try before him. And even after this horrible outing, I say Bobby should still be the closer given the current state of the bullpen. Santos??? Yucky yucky yuck yucks. Fantom- hate.... My thumb must not be on the pulse of soxtalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 10:15 PM) I'd give Santos a try before him. And even after this horrible outing, I say Bobby should still be the closer given the current state of the bullpen. Despite what I just saw in the 9th inning, I completely agree with you. All things considered, the truth is that the only way the Sox win the division is with Jenks closing out games for them in September. (or with them winning every game by 6 runs once Mannypalooza starts) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 How many weeks was Bobby with us in '05 before he was handed the closer role? History shall repeat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 10:11 PM) Hate? I think everyone agrees with you, but they know it's not going to happen. Can't really say I blame the Sox, as they have an idea of how often they want to use him. This post pretty much sums up how I feel as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Bobby has always been terrible with 3+ inning saves, stick with Bobby at this point... any word on Thorton? I know he was retroactive, so he should be eligible this week. Any chance of seeing him soon or does he need more time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 11:25 PM) Bobby has always been terrible with 3+ inning saves, stick with Bobby at this point... any word on Thorton? I know he was retroactive, so he should be eligible this week. Any chance of seeing him soon or does he need more time? SATURDAY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 11:27 PM) SATURDAY awesome, hadn't heard it, good news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 11:25 PM) Bobby has always been terrible with 3+ inning saves, stick with Bobby at this point... any word on Thorton? I know he was retroactive, so he should be eligible this week. Any chance of seeing him soon or does he need more time? I thought he was always terrible in 1+ inning saves. Maybe you mean 3+ outs? Especially the next outing after a save attempt when he's been extended over multiple innings, it's almost always a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 11:37 PM) I thought he was always terrible in 1+ inning saves. Maybe you mean 3+ outs? Especially the next outing after a save attempt when he's been extended over multiple innings, it's almost always a disaster. yes, I meant 3+ outs, thanks for the catch. He's always been terrible at those if memory serves me correctly, so the K in the 8th was awesome, but I had a feeling that 9th was coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 10:15 PM) I'd give Santos a try before him. And even after this horrible outing, I say Bobby should still be the closer given the current state of the bullpen. I've felt the same was as you and I suppose I still do, but really, how many times can we keep saying this? Feels like dude's cost us 6-7 games already. It's too bad; he used to be BAAAAAD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Does anyone know what is the status of JJ Putz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCangelosi Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 06:26 AM) Does anyone know what is the status of JJ Putz? I was wondering the same thing. Seems as if he will be gone for 2 weeks legitimately at least?? Could be more I suppose.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxrwhite Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Fine time for the bullpen to be in shambles as every game is vital and no lead is safe! Sale still seems to be a mystery to the rest of the league and he throws strikes. Let him close a game or two and see what happens it can't be any worse than Jenks. Bobby was in a similiar situation in"05. I know I said before stick with the plan and dance with the guys you brought but I can't watch Jenks blow another game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 07:32 AM) I was wondering the same thing. Seems as if he will be gone for 2 weeks legitimately at least?? Could be more I suppose.... Putz pitched in the game on August 24th, even if it was only 3 pitches, so he couldn't be put on the DL retroactive to anything. I think he can't be back before Sept. 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeFabregas Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I wouldn't mind Sale getting the occasional save. He is the best healthy pitcher in the bullpen. However, I don't think the Sox will make him the full-time closer because they wouldn't be able to limit his appearances that way. It's probably best that they continue to use him in high-leverage situations (as they have since his debut). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 This bullpen was one of the best in baseball until about 2-3 weeks ago. Then the injuries and implosions came in full force. That said, Thornton is back this weekend, and probably Putz shortly after. And bullpens go through pains like this. I am highly confident that this bullpen will get back on track very soon, but for one man - Bobby. I am just not sure about him. Thing is, his velocity is still there, but it looks to me like he is STILL trying to be a precision pitcher, instead of just throwing the damn ball. His 95-98 FB has life to it, and his curveball is very solid. If he just threw those two pitches, into the catcher's spot, I really think he'd be his old self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 10:15 PM) Santos will not be the closer this season. Ozzie has ZERO confidence in him due to the infamous "wall" he believes Santos has hit. Santos has hit the wall. He has absolutely sucked the past couple of appearances he has made. Walks, hits, etc. The grand slam to Betancourt, getting touched up by the Orioles, he has not been getting the job done and deserves no shot at closing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 11:50 PM) yes, I meant 3+ outs, thanks for the catch. He's always been terrible at those if memory serves me correctly, so the K in the 8th was awesome, but I had a feeling that 9th was coming. I had a feeling that 9th was coming because it was Bobby Jenks on the mound. Unfortunately, I likely would have had the same feeling if it were any other White Sox reliever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 09:30 AM) Thing is, his velocity is still there, but it looks to me like he is STILL trying to be a precision pitcher, instead of just throwing the damn ball. His 95-98 FB has life to it, and his curveball is very solid. If he just threw those two pitches, into the catcher's spot, I really think he'd be his old self. I dunno...there were plenty of pitches in the 9th yesterday that absolutely sailed. I can't believe he didn't throw a WP with 2 outs and the runner on 3rd, he threw one over AJ's head and then the next one 3 feet outside and AJ had to jump to save both of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_LEE45 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I feel if the sox really are going to jump back in this they BETTER let Sale pitch the 9th until Thorton and Putz come back,Santo's and Jenks i wouldn't trust with a 6 run lead , its so bad i would rather see Linebrink than Jenks or Santos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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