hi8is Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Thought it'd be great to have a thread devoted to Manny while he is here with us. You know some crazy, funny, stupid, great, upsetting, and silly stuff is gonna go down over the remainder of 2010! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigHurt Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I honestly am excited. Just hope he doesn't get into it with anyone, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 (edited) I can't fing wait. I hope he is as hungry as he was when he got traded from Boston. If he Can be ManRam of old for 30 games I think we make the playoffs, then who knows. If his desire is there, Mannypalooza will be successful on the SouthSide. (He better play tomorrow, not too tired BS. He has had 5 days off.) Edited August 31, 2010 by Frank_Thomas35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Too bad Oz is batting him 5th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 after the runner stranding fiasco of tonight, I can't wait to see Manny in that line-up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 09:58 PM) I can't fing wait. I hope he is as hungry as he was when he got traded from Boston. If he Can be ManRam of old for 30 games I think we make the playoffs, then who knows. If his desire is there, Mannypaloosa will be successful on the SouthSide. (He better play tomorrow, not too tired BS. He has had 5 days off.) With a Z man, a Z! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (TitoMB @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 11:18 PM) Too bad Oz is batting him 5th. Eh, with our 1-2 combo, I'd rather not waste his bat with 2 out and nobody on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 11:27 PM) Eh, with our 1-2 combo, I'd rather not waste his bat with 2 out and nobody on. huh? Juan's OBP the last 28 days has been .392. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickofypres Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Ozzie wants him 5th. With as well as Beckham has been hitting post ASB I think Pierre-Beckham-Manny is a great 1-2-3. Just me though....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Don't you mean tracking Manny Ramirez CHRONOLOGICALLY...? Or you're implying Manny smokes the chronic, lol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 11:30 PM) huh? Juan's OBP the last 28 days has been .392. Vizquel's due for a regression, he's projected for a .328 OBP for the rest of the year. Pierre at .345. Pretty eh for a 1-2 combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I think I would rather have Manny hit third. Either way though, I think his presence is exactly what we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 (edited) I would have said Ramirez should take Rios' place 2-3 days ago...but now that Alex SEEMS to be getting hot again, I doubt Ozzie will change things around much. OTOH, with Quentin's well-documented road struggles, it seems more logical to fit Ramirez into the 5th spot and potentially move him to 3rd if Rios slides backwards again. Plus it's too confusing with Ramirez and Ramirez hitting back to back. Ozzie might write down the same name twice while filling out the line-up card and end up with us getting an automatic out. Edited August 31, 2010 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 (edited) Just ran the new lineup through an optimizer with rest of season projections - with Manny 5th, lineup averages 4.93 runs. With him 3rd, 4.91. So Ozzie's actually sort of right... Ran the old lineup through the optimizer as well, with the rotating DH combo having a combined .330 wOBA and a .440 SLG, they averaged 4.7 runs. So Manny is a .23 run upgrade per game. Over 30 games, that's 9 more runs, or pretty much 1 whole win. Edited August 31, 2010 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 11:42 PM) Just ran the new lineup through an optimizer with rest of season projections - with Manny 5th, lineup averages 4.93 runs. With him 3rd, 4.91. So Ozzie's actually sort of right... We've been averaging over 6 runs per game for the last 2+ weeks. The problem has been the bullpen and some occasional no-shows by our "aces," especially Danks. Mark Buehrle only had 4 quality starts in his first 12 (his ERA was at 5.40 in early June), but I think he's only had one "non-quality" start since that date. Maybe two at most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 11:46 PM) We've been averaging over 6 runs per game for the last 2+ weeks. The problem has been the bullpen and some occasional no-shows by our "aces," especially Danks. Mark Buehrle only had 4 quality starts in his first 12 (his ERA was at 5.40 in early June), but I think he's only had one "non-quality" start since that date. Maybe two at most. Yeah, the pitching hasn't been there. But the lineup is seemingly having a hard time coming up with the right hits at the right time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 11:42 PM) Just ran the new lineup through an optimizer with rest of season projections - with Manny 5th, lineup averages 4.93 runs. With him 3rd, 4.91. So Ozzie's actually sort of right... Ran the old lineup through the optimizer as well, with the rotating DH combo having a combined .330 wOBA and a .440 SLG, they averaged 4.7 runs. So Manny is a .23 run upgrade per game. Over 30 games, that's 9 more runs, or pretty much 1 whole win. I prefer to think of it as nine "one run" wins, but that's expecting way too much with our bullpen in shambles these days. He's definitely one of those elite hitters you want to have up there with the game on the in the late innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Manny is money when he's going for the money but can his body still do it ? We really need a Minny mini-slump to get within 2 games fairly soon. Can't hover around 4 or more back for too much longer. It's a tough row to hoe right now with the pen in shambles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 11:48 PM) I prefer to think of it as nine "one run" wins, but that's expecting way too much with our bullpen in shambles these days. He's definitely one of those elite hitters you want to have up there with the game on the in the late innings. It'd be awesome if it were 9 one run wins. That's using your run production to the max then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 11:32 PM) Vizquel's due for a regression, he's projected for a .328 OBP for the rest of the year. Pierre at .345. Throw all the projections out the window for Juan. His OBP is already inflated this season with all the HBP he's received. (hasn't had more than 10 since his second year with the Rockies and he's already doubled that this year than he's had in the last 9-10 years) I rather just ride this fluke OBP year out with him, and Vizquel who probably will not repeat the year he's having. Edited August 31, 2010 by J.Reedfan8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 12:00 AM) Throw all the projections out the window for Juan. His OBP is already inflated this season with all the HBP he's received. (hasn't had more than 10 since his second year with the Rockies and he's already doubled that this year than he's had in the last 9-10 years) I rather just ride this fluke OBP year out with him, and Vizquel who probably will not repeat the year he's having. I'm just glad Pierre found out how to hit line drives and got his OBP up to around .350. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 10:42 PM) Just ran the new lineup through an optimizer with rest of season projections - with Manny 5th, lineup averages 4.93 runs. With him 3rd, 4.91. So Ozzie's actually sort of right... Ran the old lineup through the optimizer as well, with the rotating DH combo having a combined .330 wOBA and a .440 SLG, they averaged 4.7 runs. So Manny is a .23 run upgrade per game. Over 30 games, that's 9 more runs, or pretty much 1 whole win. Well I think most people who want Manny batting 3rd(myself included) don't have Vizquel batting 2nd either. I'm sure that'll change some things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 11:02 PM) I'm just glad Pierre found out how to hit line drives and got his OBP up to around .350. Run this one through your optimizer..... Pierre Alexei Manny Konerko Rios Quentin Beckham AJ Vizquel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 12:03 AM) Well I think most people who want Manny batting 3rd(myself included) don't have Vizquel batting 2nd either. I'm sure that'll change some things. If Vizquel begins to fade, then yeah, Alexei will hit second a lot more. He's doing that against left handed pitching right now, in fact. In that case, when Manny hits third, the lineup averages 4.99 runs. When Manny hits 5th, 5.01. Either way, it makes no difference. But Alexei in the 2-hole should help our cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 12:06 AM) Run this one through your optimizer..... Pierre Alexei Manny Konerko Rios Quentin Beckham AJ Vizquel 4.98 runs. If you put Manny 5th and Rios 3rd, then 5.001. Really, it makes no difference if he bats 3rd or 5th, the run differential over 30 games will be like .6. Edited August 31, 2010 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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