Princess Dye Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 What's CQ's problem at the plate. What was he doing differently in 08? (besides hitting the ball) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (Real @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 09:04 PM) Trade CQ in the offseason. He seriously tried to give that game away by himself. Horrible at bats, horrible defense, horrible game. If it was up to me, in the 9th I would of pinch hit Manny for Carlos and then put Jones in for defense in the bottom of the inning. It worked out fine, but I didnt want him up there taking hacks, even at a pitcher that was obviously struggling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 09:05 PM) Edwin Jackson is so god damn beast. He's going 05 Contreras on us. Jose was the first guy to come to mind for me. Haven't had a pitcher pitch at this level this deep into the season since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 10:08 PM) Jose was the first guy to come to mind for me. Haven't had a pitcher pitch at this level this deep into the season since then. Gavin Floyd hasnt been that shabby himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Just remember guys.....Edwin Jackson isn't dominant. Afterall, Carlos Silva had a good month or two for the Cubs.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 10:10 PM) Just remember guys.....Edwin Jackson isn't dominant. Afterall, Carlos Silva had a good month or two for the Cubs.... he looked pretty dominant so far.....give me whatever your havin all that matters to me is he's getting the job done better than anyone else on our staff and it's at the right time of the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I remember reading about Edwin Jackson when he was an untouchable, can't miss prospect in the Dodger system. It looks like that guy has finally made the big leagues, and he pitches for the Chicago White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 09:10 PM) Just remember guys.....Edwin Jackson isn't dominant. Afterall, Carlos Silva had a good month or two for the Cubs.... his ERA + was very good for the Cubs, but it topped at like 130, 30% better than an average pitcher, Edwin coming into tonight with 4 starts was 454, 354% better than an average pitcher... comparing apples to oranges... not sure if this was meant to be in green, but who cares, I wanted to post how freaky EJax has been, even before tonight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Daddy Kool Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 (edited) cst_sox: Not hearing a whole lot from Phillip now about how Daniel Hudson was the savior and how could the Sox trade him. Where you at Phil? less than a minute ago via web I forgot, he's playing with his John Ely bobblehead doll. Cowley is killing Phil Rogers...again...and it's spot -on QUOTE (RudyLawRules @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 09:05 PM) EJAX first 5 games on the Sox. Damn... Edited September 1, 2010 by Big Daddy Kool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 09:10 PM) Just remember guys.....Edwin Jackson isn't dominant. Afterall, Carlos Silva had a good month or two for the Cubs.... I think Jackson has been the definition of dominant with us. His FIP is at 2.29 since joining the Sox. That's 1.4 WAR. 1.4 WAR over 5 starts, stretch that out over 30. You're talking 09 Zack Greinke. Edited September 1, 2010 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (Big Daddy Kool @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 09:13 PM) cst_sox: Not hearing a whole lot from Phillip now about how Daniel Hudson was the savior and how could the Sox trade him. Where you at Phil? less than a minute ago via web I forgot, he's playing with his John Ely bobblehead doll. Cowley is killing Phil Rogers...again...and it's spot -on Cowley shouldnt throw stones in glass houses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearingPro Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Where would this team be without good old #33??? We are very lucky to have Kenny Williams running the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 09:13 PM) his ERA + was very good for the Cubs, but it topped at like 130, 30% better than an average pitcher, Edwin coming into tonight with 4 starts was 454, 354% better than an average pitcher... comparing apples to oranges... not sure if this was meant to be in green, but who cares, I wanted to post how freaky EJax has been, even before tonight! I am a fan of this stat. I am also a fan of Manny having 3 RBI for the Sox without a plate appearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeFabregas Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 09:12 PM) I remember reading about Edwin Jackson when he was an untouchable, can't miss prospect in the Dodger system. It looks like that guy has finally made the big leagues, and he pitches for the Chicago White Sox. He had a fantastic first half for Detroit last year. His success hasn't come out of nowhere. He must have a sign on his back that says "I like throwing too many pitches." Leyland had him throw too much (thus the second-half slide), then he threw 150 pitches in his no-hitter, now Ozzie (who is usually excellent on managing pitch counts) has him throw 130. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 09:19 PM) I am a fan of this stat. I am also a fan of Manny having 3 RBI for the Sox without a plate appearance. Getting a little ridiculous with this now. A.J. deserves 99.99999% of the credit for that bomb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (beckham15 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 08:12 PM) he looked pretty dominant so far.....give me whatever your havin all that matters to me is he's getting the job done better than anyone else on our staff and it's at the right time of the year QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 08:13 PM) his ERA + was very good for the Cubs, but it topped at like 130, 30% better than an average pitcher, Edwin coming into tonight with 4 starts was 454, 354% better than an average pitcher... comparing apples to oranges... not sure if this was meant to be in green, but who cares, I wanted to post how freaky EJax has been, even before tonight! QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 08:14 PM) I think Jackson has been the definition of dominant with us. His FIP is at 2.29 since joining the Sox. That's 1.4 WAR. 1.4 WAR over 5 starts, stretch that out over 30. You're talking 09 Zack Greinke. My comment was in reference to the game thread last night where someone said something like "We have no dominant starters" and I said "Edwin Jackson and his POTY award say otherwise". Then 4 or 5 people starting commenting saying how bad he was in AZ, and how Carlos Silva started 8-0 for the Cubs, and other things disputing Edwin jackson being dominant for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 No. We said he's not an ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 09:24 PM) Getting a little ridiculous with this now. A.J. deserves 99.99999% of the credit for that bomb. Come on. I'm intentionally trying to out-do the Beckham love from last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 09:17 PM) Cowley shouldnt throw stones in glass houses Cowley should disappear. I really wish he would take his act somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 09:29 PM) No. We said he's not an ace. Not yet. His potential has always been an ace. He's played like an ace since he's hooked up with Coop. If the Sox were somehow to make the playoffs, Edwin should be the Game 1 starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I really miss watching these games. Great to see the winning ways continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I hate how people are still chiming in "For those who hated the deal look at Jackson now!" and all that crap. If you look at most of the arguments on this site, you will see it wasnt the fact we got Jackson, but the price we paid. In fact, most people were intrigued by Jackson, and welcomed him to the team. That said, we paid a steep price for the value that Jackson held at the time, and without Hudson we have a very expensive starting rotation next year without any ready replacements if we decide to trade a starter. If we kept Hudson and still got Jackson, we can go ahead and trade one of our starters, fill some holes, while still being 5 strong. IMO, and I know Im not a GM but looking at recent trends and the value of young, MLB starters with potential, I would say Hudson/Holmberg was too much for Jackson and no salary relief. For those who use the NL excuse for Hudson's success thus far, then how do you explain such a steep price for a 5 era in the NL Jackson? Not to mention he really has had only a year and a half of success, and has struggled with every team he has been on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Awesome Jackson. Stupid Tigers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (Cali @ Sep 1, 2010 -> 12:06 AM) Awesome Jackson. Stupid Tigers. Yeah, after as big a win as this it would be nice to make up a little ground in the standings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 (edited) Only three pitchers now in franchise history has 10+ strikeouts in 3 consecutive games. (which is also the record for our franchise) Ed Walsh, Floyd Bannister and now Edwin Jackson. Edited September 1, 2010 by J.Reedfan8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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