kane0730 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 1, 2010 -> 03:45 PM) By the way...one thing that we've gotten repeatedly from KW since 2005 is that he clearly seems to think you can't have too much pitching. Every year he hasn't come into the season with "too much starting pitching" he's been burnt on it. I can't fathom kenny starting the year with Peavy, Floyd, Buehrle, Jackson, and Sale, with no obvious backup option. That's why he'll bring somebody in the Freddy pay range, and let Sale battle it out. The rotation is far too expensive and something will have to give. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (kane0730 @ Sep 1, 2010 -> 04:46 PM) Probably not an OFer. I'm thinking Fielder. I've thought about this...but really, I can't see KW giving up 2 years of D1 for 1 year of Fielder at a higher cost. It's just not like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 1, 2010 -> 04:49 PM) I've thought about this...but really, I can't see KW giving up 2 years of D1 for 1 year of Fielder at a higher cost. It's just not like him. If he trades Danks, which I wouldnt put past him, it would be for an impact bat now with at least one high upside prospect. Danks is one of the better young lefties in the league and is signed relatively cheap (arbitration) for two more years. He should rightfully command a boatload for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kane0730 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 1, 2010 -> 03:49 PM) I've thought about this...but really, I can't see KW giving up 2 years of D1 for 1 year of Fielder at a higher cost. It's just not like him. Maybe if Jackson keeps this up, he'll sell Jackson high. If their rotation returns next year, its going to handcuff KW in the bullpen & line-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Sep 1, 2010 -> 04:53 PM) If he trades Danks, which I wouldnt put past him, it would be for an impact bat now with at least one high upside prospect. Danks is one of the better young lefties in the league and is signed relatively cheap (arbitration) for two more years. He should rightfully command a boatload for him. Here's the problem though...the Brewers, for example, don't have any high upside, upper minor league arms right now. If they did they'd probably already have them in the majors. Their top pick last year, Eric Arnett (who some here were interested in) has an ERA of nearly 7 this year. Another of their pitchers is working on his 2nd drug suspension (100 days). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (kane0730 @ Sep 1, 2010 -> 04:55 PM) Maybe if Jackson keeps this up, he'll sell Jackson high. If their rotation returns next year, its going to handcuff KW in the bullpen & line-up. I think KW might well find it nearly impossible to trade Jackson. Teams will be skeptical of a 1-2 month performance...Jackson is a FA after next year which will reduce the price other teams would offer, and frankly...teams are going to be extra unwilling to be the 4th team to trade for the guy in 3 years and the 5th to have him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 1, 2010 -> 04:58 PM) Here's the problem though...the Brewers, for example, don't have any high upside, upper minor league arms right now. If they did they'd probably already have them in the majors. Their top pick last year, Eric Arnett (who some here were interested in) has an ERA of nearly 7 this year. Another of their pitchers is working on his 2nd drug suspension (100 days). I honestly don't think the Brewers are even a candidate. As you said, I doubt KW goes after a guy with only 1 year left like a Fielder. I'm not speculating on anyone specific, but I think it'd have to be someone with multiple years left, in addition to a prospect or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 1, 2010 -> 02:04 PM) He is a great comleemnt in the pen to Thornton, but to say he has anything better than Matt may be a stretch at this point. He's got better overall stuff than Matt and a much better slider, that's not a stretch it's just the truth. Doesn't mean he's a better pitcher at this point but his stuff is certainly better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I look forward to seeing what Sale does in the minors when we start to stretch him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Anyone getting an impression that Sale might be getting groomed for Sox' closer of the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 1, 2010 -> 04:32 PM) Anyone getting an impression that Sale might be getting groomed for Sox' closer of the future? No. He has too many good pitches to be wasted as a closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 1, 2010 -> 04:33 PM) No. He has too many good pitches to be wasted as a closer. + a billionty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 1, 2010 -> 05:32 PM) Anyone getting an impression that Sale might be getting groomed for Sox' closer of the future? I think Santos is the guy who will be making the transition. Edited September 2, 2010 by Thunderbolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Sep 1, 2010 -> 04:43 PM) I think Santo is the guy who will be making the transition. NOOOOoooooo NOOOOOOOooooo OH NOOOOOOO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 1, 2010 -> 04:46 PM) NOOOOoooooo NOOOOOOOooooo OH NOOOOOOO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Chris Sale, I wish to express my appreciation. Regards, StrangeSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 1, 2010 -> 04:48 PM) Chris Sale, I wish to express my appreciation. Regards, StrangeSox I would like to sign this card. XOXO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 1, 2010 -> 04:46 PM) NOOOOoooooo NOOOOOOOooooo OH NOOOOOOO Santos and Sale are certainly two of the luckier things that we've gotten this year. One will be our ace of the future and the other the closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 With all due respect to Gordo: Chris Sale has the biggest f***ing balls of any Sox prospect I have seen in a long time. The dude is f***ing ice cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 1, 2010 -> 03:42 PM) Yeah, I really think Kenny is going to be shopping Danks all off-season, and hopefully for a legit OF. Trading Danks would be dumb as f***, especially since we have control over him cheaply for another 2 years. I repeat, dumb as f***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 (edited) Sale may be a reliever in the future. With his mechanics you could risk an injury like Strasburg if he is pitching 100+ pitches. Conversely as a reliever you may get 10+ years of success. I think the Sox are going to have to make a difficult decision. Edited September 2, 2010 by Soxbadger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Fun little fact.... Chris Sale is only the 4th pitcher in major league history to record a save in the same year he was drafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 1, 2010 -> 05:52 PM) Trading Danks would be dumb as f***, especially since we have control over him cheaply for another 2 years. I repeat, dumb as f***. He is going to be expensive through arbitration, and we have potentially 7 starters next year (if you include Freddy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Freddy's probably gone and Sale will probably start in AAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 1, 2010 -> 07:42 PM) He is going to be expensive through arbitration, and we have potentially 7 starters next year (if you include Freddy). He'll be cheaper than Peavy, Ejax, and Buehrle. He's a top of the rotation guy and one of the best young lefties in the league. You keep him until starts demanding the Lester deal and either you give it to him if he is worth it or you trade him at the deadline. Freddy wont be back most likely and Sale is then your Hudson in waiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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