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  1. 1. Are Tea Party candidates and followers . . .

    • Bandwagon jumpers for personal gain
      1
    • Fashionistas riding the newest wave
      4
    • Racists with a legit cover
      2
    • Within the norm of conservatives
      6
    • Just outside the norm of conservatives
      0
    • fringe group
      3
    • Patriotic Americans
      2
    • The smart ones around us
      0
    • Too many choices
      0
    • Bacon!
      1


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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 7, 2010 -> 07:43 PM)
I'm white with a doctorate and agree with a lot of their viewpoints.

 

and all of their view points aren't crazy.

 

I just enjoy seeing people who pay the least amount in taxes, 10-20% brackets, (personal income, property, sales, etc) out there screaming about how their taxes are too high.

 

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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 7, 2010 -> 01:43 PM)
I'm white with a doctorate and agree with a lot of their viewpoints.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you a lawyer? I'm calling bulls*** if you're equating a three-year, vocational degree with a doctorate simply because it's called "Juris Doctor." While it may be technically true, it's hella tacky.

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QUOTE (JorgeFabregas @ Sep 7, 2010 -> 01:49 PM)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you a lawyer? I'm calling bulls*** if you're equating a three-year, vocational degree with a doctorate simply because it's called "Juris Doctor." While it may be technically true, it's hella tacky.

 

A JD and a PhD are distinctly different degrees. One is a professional degree, the other is academic. One entitles you to put JD at the end of your name, the other allows you to put Dr. at the front.

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Might be tacky for lawyers to call themselves Dr's but as you stated "its technically true." Not to mention the reason why you dont call lawyers "Doctors" mainly comes from the fact that in some countries/states you dont need to go to law school to become a licensed attorney.

 

But if you have successfully been given a "juris doctor" you are in fact holding a doctorate.

 

 

 

 

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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 7, 2010 -> 08:01 PM)
Might be tacky for lawyers to call themselves Dr's but as you stated "its technically true." Not to mention the reason why you dont call lawyers "Doctors" mainly comes from the fact that in some countries/states you dont need to go to law school to become a licensed attorney.

 

But if you have successfully been given a "juris doctor" you are in fact holding a doctorate.

 

my high school gym teacher was also a Dr. too.

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Yeah you're right. It is a doctorate, just as an M.D. is a doctorate, but it's generally not considered the same level as a PhD.

 

The Juris Doctor in Academia

 

The Juris Doctor is the degree that prepares the recipient to enter the profession (as do the D.D.S./D.M.D. and M.D. or D.O. in the dental and medical professions, respectively). While the J.D. is the sole degree necessary to teach law or to obtain a license to practice law, it (like the D.D.S./D.M.D.) is not the final degree available.[128] Advanced degrees in the study of law include the Master of Laws (LL.M.), which requires the J.D. as a prerequisite[129], and the Doctor of the Science of Law (S.J.D./J.S.D.), which ordinarily requires the LL.M. as a prerequisite.[129] Although the American Bar Association has issued a Council Statement[130] recommending that the J.D. be considered as being equivalent to the Ph.D. for employment and educational purposes,[131] the United States Department of Education, the National Science Foundation, and the European Research Council do not include the J.D. or other professional doctorates among the degrees that are equivalent to the PhD.[132][133][134] The J.D. in particular has had its status as a doctoral degree questioned (despite its name). [135][136][137] According to the U.S. Department of Education, research doctorates represent the highest academic qualification in the U.S. educational system; the National Science Foundation recognizes the Doctor of Juridical Science (S.J.D./J.S.D.) as being "equivalent in content and level to the Ph.D. degree

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QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Sep 7, 2010 -> 03:23 PM)
i forgot which comedian used this in their act...

 

if you're in a theater and a man collapses, someone screams, "is there a doctor in the house" and you can't stand up, you're not really a doctor.

I'd stand up but that's because I'm a trained first responder.

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QUOTE (JorgeFabregas @ Sep 7, 2010 -> 01:49 PM)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you a lawyer? I'm calling bulls*** if you're equating a three-year, vocational degree with a doctorate simply because it's called "Juris Doctor." While it may be technically true, it's hella tacky.

 

Call bulls*** all you want asshole, it's still a doctorate.

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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 7, 2010 -> 03:59 PM)
Call bulls*** all you want asshole, it's still a doctorate.

I really don't think anyone considers it as such other than perhaps a plurality of lawyers.

 

You have every right to be proud of your academic and professional accomplishments. I wouldn't consider a lawyer uneducated and it's a more advanced degree than I have.

 

I consider Tea Party stuff to be almost entirely wrong and pretty silly. I don't know where that fits in to the poll.

 

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Definitely depends on what level you are talking about. There are some who pretend to be, just for the attention/wave of support. There are some who actually make quite a bit of sense. And then there are some who are crazy.

 

So basically they are like any other political party.

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QUOTE (Controlled Chaos @ Sep 7, 2010 -> 08:19 PM)
This is like when the ump warns both benches after the Sox player is hit.

Agreed. I actually side with Jenks on this one, I think its ridiculous to say a J.D. is somehow a lesser doctorate than any other. But, Jenks was also the one who broke out the asshole card. So, I'm warning everyone. Try to keep the insults out of it.

 

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 8, 2010 -> 08:23 AM)
Agreed. I actually side with Jenks on this one, I think its ridiculous to say a J.D. is somehow a lesser doctorate than any other.

 

Take that up with United States Department of Education, the National Science Foundation, and the European Research Council. A professional degree is not the same as a PhD.

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