Quin Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 We hear Stone talk nonstop about how Chris Sale should be happy to be getting MLB sized meals and bulk up...but what happens when/if he does. Could it negatively affect his delivery? Or could he (somehow) throw harder? If he threw harder he'd essentially be knocking on Chapman/Strasburg territory...though it will probably go down as a starter. But that's where the bulking up comes in. If he gets bigger, would he be able to keep his fastball where its at right now as a starter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 I would assume he would throw 110 mph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 11, 2010 Author Share Posted September 11, 2010 QUOTE (T R U @ Sep 11, 2010 -> 03:04 AM) I would assume he would throw 110 mph Steve Dalkowski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 He is sometimes called the fastest pitcher in baseball history and had a fastball that probably exceeded 100 MPH. Some experts believed it went as fast as 115 MPH, others that his pitches traveled at 110 MPH or less.[3] As no radar gun or other device was available at games to measure the speed of his pitches precisely, the actual top speed of his pitches remains unknown. AKA he threw nowhere near 100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint it Black Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 Nothing. He's still a pen arm and will be a very good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 This question reminds me what Ranger fans/org wanted McCarthy to do. (to throw harder, avoid more injury risk) The kid then adds about 10-15 pounds of muscle in the off-season.. and is now even more injury prone than he was before (I believe he had surgery on his shoulder a while back). Adding bulk doesn't add velocity. Hell the two players you named are actually relatively skinny guys. (Pedro Martinez was a tiny f***er as well) Thats like saying Sabathia/Broxton should lose weight so maybe they can touch 100+ instead of 95+. It's pure god given talent. Either you have it, or you don't. There were guys in high school I played with that threw much harder than I did and they were very thin guys. There was also a fat guy who touched the mid/high 80s on my team as well. I'm sure there are many guys in the minors now that wished they could hit at least the mid 90s. (especially if their other stuff/repertoire is already fringe or average) Chris Sale is obviously very fortunate he has an arm like that. (how fortunate with his delivery though.. we'll see in time) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 I'm still waiting for Anorexei Ramirez to bulk up. It shocked me when the say he lost 5 lbs. during last offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 If he's 98 lbs and throwing 100, he'll either slow down as he puts on weight or he'll end up knocking out catchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 People will complain that he's too fat the first time he blows a save. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 I dont think its a given that he bulks up. Some people just arent able to put on a lot of weight, no matter what they do to attempt to put it on. Look at Randy Johnson, he always was a tall thin guy, he put on a little bit of weight, but not so much that you would say he bulked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 I think we'll see Sale come into camp next year with a little more bulk on his frame. I can't see this changing his velocity in any significant way, but there's potential that it could lead to an increase in durability as he transitions into the role of a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Sep 11, 2010 -> 03:17 AM) Nothing. He's still a pen arm and will be a very good one. He's going to be a very good starter. His best pitch, his changeup, isnt even featured out of the pen. Regardless at some point his elbow is going to give out and he will need TJ. Hopefully we've unloaded him by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Sep 11, 2010 -> 08:56 AM) People will complain that he's too fat the first time he blows a save. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 11, 2010 -> 05:59 AM) I'm still waiting for Anorexei Ramirez to bulk up. It shocked me when the say he lost 5 lbs. during last offseason. I like this. I like this a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooftop Shots Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 If he bulks up, he'll be all the way up to 145 pounds. One Alexei, One Sale, plus one Vizquel, equals one Prince Fielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 11, 2010 -> 06:59 AM) I'm still waiting for Anorexei Ramirez to bulk up. It shocked me when the say he lost 5 lbs. during last offseason. And became the best SS in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 12, 2010 -> 12:09 AM) And became the best SS in the league. Defensive, sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 FWIW, according to his AAP page, Sale is listed at 183. He lost a fair amount of mass early this summer though (5-10 lbs) in a bout of food poisoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 12, 2010 -> 10:56 PM) FWIW, according to his AAP page, Sale is listed at 183. He lost a fair amount of mass early this summer though (5-10 lbs) in a bout of food poisoning. Ya but I heard he gained it right back in the form of a gold chain... Edited September 12, 2010 by SEALgep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 (edited) i still remember the good ol days when Jenks was throwing 100 mph then he "bulks up" and couldn't even strike out Mark Reynolds. Edited September 12, 2010 by thxfrthmmrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Sep 12, 2010 -> 07:54 PM) i still remember the good ol days when Jenks was throwing 100 mph then he "bulks up" and couldn't even strike out Mark Reynolds. Bobby was still touching 98-99 earlier this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 QUOTE (Rooftop Shots @ Sep 11, 2010 -> 06:24 PM) One Alexei, One Sale, plus one Vizquel, equals one Prince Fielder. That trade would never go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Sale is uncomfortably skinny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 QUOTE (JPN366 @ Sep 12, 2010 -> 08:09 PM) That trade would never go down. I think he meant in terms of "mass". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 11, 2010 -> 06:59 AM) I'm still waiting for Anorexei Ramirez to bulk up. It shocked me when the say he lost 5 lbs. during last offseason. He looks like one of the dudes that played MLB baseball in the pre Steroid/Selig era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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