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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 17, 2010 -> 08:26 PM)
Or any profession where you had to act your age and as professional representing a multi-national corporation. Maybe you havent worked enough to know the difference yet, but there is a huge gap between being in college working at a bar, and working for a public company representing them to customers and partners in any profession. Thats why your dental assistant doesnt wear a halter top to work.

 

They may wear halter tops under their scrubs. I don't know.

 

You see some of the men who cover sports and how they dress? They are mostly out of shape slobs and none wear suits. Mostly jeans and polos.

 

I'm 31. I've been around plenty of workplaces in my time.

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Is anyone else under the impression that all reporters should you know, just wear suits to an MLB, NFL, NBA, or NHL game?

 

That is unless they are a local writer familiar with the team (Cowley), then I'd probably be fine with semi-casual. But when you're going everywhere around the nation on national TV, try to look your most professional.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 17, 2010 -> 11:57 PM)
I still want someone to explain to me what's wrong with the jeans she was wearing. I'm getting pretty bored with arguments by assertion repeating the same thing without addressing this when I've condeded all the other points.

 

What was 'wrong' was she wore tight jeans that displayed her ass prominently in a very testosterone filled locker room.

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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 01:03 AM)
What was 'wrong' was she wore tight jeans that displayed her ass prominently in a very testosterone filled locker room.

How would you suggest she not do that? Her ass is big and that's why her pants are tight and not vice versa (they don't make womens jeans the same way they do for men). There's women who dress like that at my job where the dress code is business attire (on dress down days). Nobody is drooling because you can see the shape of a woman's behind through her pants.

 

And I'm already conceding the issue of the locker room but I don't know why any reporters are in there to begin with. Like someone else mentioned they have separate interviews in the NBA where its mandatory and players get fined for ducking the media. I don't see why they can't do this in the NFL.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 12:09 AM)
How would you suggest she not do that? Her ass is big and that's why her pants are tight and not vice versa (they don't make womens jeans the same way they do for men). There's women who dress like that at my job where the dress code is business attire (on dress down days). Nobody is drooling because you can see the shape of a woman's behind through her pants.

 

And I'm already conceding the issue of the locker room but I don't know why any reporters are in there to begin with. Like someone else mentioned they have separate interviews in the NBA where its mandatory and players get fined for ducking the media. I don't see why they can't do this in the NFL.

 

I put wrong in quotations because it I'm siding with her. All she did wrong was wear her size jeans in an unlucky environment. So really, nothing.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 12:15 AM)
Ah gotcha.

 

Unless she wears those jeans a couple of sizes larger (which is going to look stupid) then her ass is going to show. Now the other times where she does interviews in a halter top, yes that's inappropriate. Not this though.

 

On Fox, the reporter kept mentioning her jeans and her reply was "that's my size".

 

Nothing wrong there.

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I would like to say alittle part of me thinks this was a hell of a publicity stunt from her. Didn't she say in an interview she wanted to be as well known in America as she is in Mexico? Didn't hurt the team she was getting "harassed" with is in New York. The only reason I say "alittle part" is I don't think she necessarily attended to be this much of a story, especially with womans rights group getting involved.

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QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 12:41 AM)
I would like to say alittle part of me thinks this was a hell of a publicity stunt from her. Didn't she say in an interview she wanted to be as well known in America as she is in Mexico? Didn't hurt the team she was getting "harassed" with is in New York. The only reason I say "alittle part" is I don't think she necessarily attended to be this much of a story, especially with womans rights group getting involved.

This.

 

Somehow I don't think that this was the first time that this is happened to her.

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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 17, 2010 -> 08:14 PM)
Maybe she should wear a business outfit. I work with women in sales every day of the week and I know the difference between looking like a bar patron vs looking like a professional. She looks like she is at a bar looking for a man, and was treated as such. If a guy went into a women's locker room dressed in a speedo or in a tight outfit, of course he would be hit on (if they werent lesbians), because that is how you portray yourself. Good try though.

 

You still goggling that private plane case?

Are you saying if these women you work with wore something they would wear to a club on Saturday night to work, it would be appropriate and your company would have no problem if you or other guys you worked with were to hit on them or make off the cuff remarks?

 

I understand this woman isn't exactly the best example of a professional reporter. She was the one that was asking the Bears during the Super Bowl media day if they would marry her, but still, whether you are an idiot football player or some CEO with 20 advanced degrees, when you are at your place of employment, there are standards you have maintain.

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QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 01:41 AM)
I would like to say alittle part of me thinks this was a hell of a publicity stunt from her. Didn't she say in an interview she wanted to be as well known in America as she is in Mexico? Didn't hurt the team she was getting "harassed" with is in New York. The only reason I say "alittle part" is I don't think she necessarily attended to be this much of a story, especially with womans rights group getting involved.

 

 

QUOTE (flippedoutpunk @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 03:35 AM)
i wish i could rush into a WNBA womens locker room as a reporter with tight jeans showing off my formidable bulge with a bunch of naked women walking around after a long game and then accuse them of something assinine afterwards..

She is not the one who complained (she says "I'll say as I said a thousand times, I am not the one who condemned the fact" in Spanish). She's riding the attention wave right now but it was the women's reporter's association or whatever it's called that got involved on her behalf.

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Its the way the reporter comes across as well. The Tribune had an excellent article yesterday about it. I think Haugh wrote it. But basically, she was asking Bears players to marry her when she covered their Super Bowl year. She looks at dudes very flirtatiously, etc. So in this girl's particular case, she dresses the part, but pretends not to be a you know what.

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You guys have the wrong Ines, the one who asked Tom Brady to marry her during the SB was Ines Gomez Mont (another hottie), not Ines Sainz...both work for TV Azteca.

 

I was vacationing in Mexico during this year's World Cup and man, do they have some hotties working as sports reporters down there, and I might be wrong but I don't think they get those gigs because they are very knowledgeable about sports because they mostly do fluff pieces like who's hotter, Cristiano Ronaldo or Diego Forlan...very deep stuff.

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 03:53 PM)
Are you saying if these women you work with wore something they would wear to a club on Saturday night to work, it would be appropriate and your company would have no problem if you or other guys you worked with were to hit on them or make off the cuff remarks?

 

I understand this woman isn't exactly the best example of a professional reporter. She was the one that was asking the Bears during the Super Bowl media day if they would marry her, but still, whether you are an idiot football player or some CEO with 20 advanced degrees, when you are at your place of employment, there are standards you have maintain.

 

good god it took this long for someone to make this point? thank you Dick Allen. I was going crazy.

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 10:53 AM)
Are you saying if these women you work with wore something they would wear to a club on Saturday night to work, it would be appropriate and your company would have no problem if you or other guys you worked with were to hit on them or make off the cuff remarks?

 

I understand this woman isn't exactly the best example of a professional reporter. She was the one that was asking the Bears during the Super Bowl media day if they would marry her, but still, whether you are an idiot football player or some CEO with 20 advanced degrees, when you are at your place of employment, there are standards you have maintain.

No, they would be asked to go home and change because their dress was unprofessional. It would also contribute towards their performance rating.

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Posting without personal comment from Peter King's weekly monday piece.

One of the byproducts of the Sainz story is the discussion of why women should be in the locker room in the first place -- or why any reporters should be in the locker room. I've gotten e-mails and tons of Tweets wondering why we should be in there, and saying we could solve this entire problem (which I don't believe there is) by having all the players cool off, calm down, take a shower, get dressed, and then meet us in an interview room.

 

I understand that. But you need to understand how your coverage, and your knowledge of the game and the characters in it, will be very adversely affected if we in the news media don't get access to the players soon after the game, and in their habitat, the locker room.

 

To illustrate my case, let's revisit the NFC Championship Game in New Orleans between the Vikings and Saints last January. When Favre entered the interview room for his postgame press conference, it was about 45 minutes after the painful defeat, which he helped cause with a terrible fourth-quarter interception. He took a beating in that game. In the interview room, he was composed but sad. The Associate Press wrote this: "I've felt better," said Favre, who looked every bit his 40 years. "It was a physical game. A lot of hits. You win that and you sure feel a lot better."

 

Fifteen minutes after the game, a group of writers, me included, entered the locker room. My observations of the scene, and Favre's state, were in Monday Morning Quarterback hours later. Read the first few paragraphs of this link. This should illustrate why the NFL will have to pry my cold, dead hands off postgame locker-room access.

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