SoxAce Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 03:29 PM) I have been thinking about how great it would be to add Rasmus since that "trade me" incident. Pierre-Rios-Rasmus OF would be great. Yuck. I will say this. Colby Rasmus is one of the few young OF I'd trade any prospect and/or pretty much any current player to get. He has not even begun to tap into his potential yet. Though that could be me, as a fan, talking as I liked the kid alot as a prospect. Edited September 18, 2010 by J.Reedfan8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (Wanne @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 04:12 PM) I guess what I'm saying is maybe...just maybe the players on this roster would respond to somebody of LaRussa's stature differently. Who knows...I could be a worse response. Plus...you'd have to factor in how Paulie'd feel about it. I think it's time for Larussa to hang it up. I doubt he wants the challenge of a new team. When managers get old they get very complacent. There will be no spark coming out of that move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 03:30 PM) Is LaRussa really that much better than Ozzie Guillen? Not now. I wonder what the attitude among Cardinal fans are about LaRussa. He's no different than any other manager. There's no magic wand when you don't have the talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (Wanne @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 03:23 PM) Anybody think there could be any merit to this fluff? No. It's hard to find anything of merit in a Rodger's article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 04:02 PM) Yuck. Well, it's not like we are going to move Pierre anywhere. And quite frankly, he has been a pretty decent player for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 04:00 PM) Why not? If the Ozzie/Walker haters used the same standards and apply them to Coop, he should be the out the door. Outside of having a reputation most on this staff (long term) have shown more signs of regression. So his reputation has overshadowed his works. The pitching staff is the #1 reason why they might finish in 2nd and hopefully not 3rd. Because I would rather have Cooper as our pitching coach than LaRussa as our manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 10:24 PM) Because I would rather have Cooper as our pitching coach than LaRussa as our manager. It's not like Duncan is bad. If anything, it might help some of our pitchers develop better sinkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 05:26 PM) It's not like Duncan is bad. If anything, it might help some of our pitchers develop better sinkers. Would you really want LaRussa over Guillen ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 03:58 PM) No s***, Larussa has 25 more years on him, if you look at their first 7 seasons, Ozzie's are more impressive. Larussa's teams make the post season at a much better rate than Ozzie's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 11:30 PM) Would you really want LaRussa over Guillen ? In a heartbeat...there is nothing that Ozzie does anymore that can be considered above average. I guarantee you that at least LaRussa would manage like we're an AL team. I'm also sick and tired of Ozzie's teams fading down the stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 03:57 PM) 32 years 4918 2628 2287 .535 2.8 5 Pennants and 2 World Series Titles 7 years 1120 591 529 .528 2.3 1 Pennant and 1 World Series Title So what exactly am I missing here Sqwert? QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 05:33 PM) In a heartbeat...there is nothing that Ozzie does anymore that can be considered above average. I guarantee you that at least LaRussa would manage like we're an AL team. I'm also sick and tired of Ozzie's teams fading down the stretch. Put Ozzies numbers out over 32 years, and they are almost identical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 05:35 PM) Put Ozzies numbers out over 32 years, and they are almost identical. They anti Ozzie group refuse to see that. Give each manager the Yankees and they will probably be identical as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 05:33 PM) In a heartbeat...there is nothing that Ozzie does anymore that can be considered above average. I guarantee you that at least LaRussa would manage like we're an AL team. I'm also sick and tired of Ozzie's teams fading down the stretch. You mean Kenny's teams. He signed those guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 09:26 PM) I would be so happy if this happened. Larusa being forced out of the Sox managerial spot was all on the ahoulders of the ole Hakeroo who played the role of GM to less than stellar reviews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 05:56 PM) Larusa being forced out of the Sox managerial spot was all on the ahoulders of the ole Hakeroo who played the role of GM to less than stellar reviews With the teams they had in the late 80s, he wouldn't have saw 1990 anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 11:47 PM) You mean Kenny's teams. He signed those guys. And Ozzie coaches them. Ozzie's strategy this season was supposed to keep everyone fresh. Instead, we see a team that has absolutely quit down the stretch. I don't even think LaRussa is a great coach. Rather, I think Ozzie's time has run out with the Sox and it's time for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 06:32 PM) Larussa's teams make the post season at a much better rate than Ozzie's. And the pile of used needles that it took to get a lot of LaRussa's teams to the postseason dwarfs the pile leftover from Ozzie's teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 07:06 PM) And Ozzie coaches them. Ozzie's strategy this season was supposed to keep everyone fresh. Instead, we see a team that has absolutely quit down the stretch. I don't even think LaRussa is a great coach. Rather, I think Ozzie's time has run out with the Sox and it's time for a change. I think the guys are plenty fresh...except for the bullpen, which fell apart towards the end. A veteran team that is beaten though is always going to respond differently from a young team like Baltimore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted September 18, 2010 Author Share Posted September 18, 2010 The thing that makes me lean towards taking Tony over Ozzie...it'd get Walker's ass outta here (which should merit a Grant Park parade IMO). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 I still maintain, based on this article from earlier in the year, that if Tony LaRussa does make a return to the South Side, it is as likely to be in the role of GM as it would be as manager. La Russa weighs in on Reinsdorf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (Wanne @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 07:19 PM) The thing that makes me lean towards taking Tony over Ozzie...it'd get Walker's ass outta here (which should merit a Grant Park parade IMO). LOL, the Sox bats have a better season than I think any of us expected, everyone shuts up about Walker for about 3 months, and now that the season's over and no one cares any more we can go back to normal Walkripping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted September 18, 2010 Author Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 05:21 PM) LOL, the Sox bats have a better season than I think any of us expected, everyone shuts up about Walker for about 3 months, and now that the season's over and no one cares any more we can go back to normal Walkripping. Yes...the world is right once again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgrad70 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 03:54 PM) If you are comparing a man with 32 years experience to a guy with 7 years, then its really only fair to look at their first 7 seasons and Ozzie's are much more impressive. I would prefer him in a Pat Riley type role. Personally, I don't care for La Russa. He's as polarizing as Ozzie is. But Reinsdorf is polarizing. I'm not getting new ownership and I'll never stop loving my White Sox so I have to deal with it. Both Ozzie and Kenny have to go. Can you see La Russa taking order from Kenny? C'mon...ain't gonna happen. La Russa returns with czar like powers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 05:33 PM) In a heartbeat...there is nothing that Ozzie does anymore that can be considered above average. I guarantee you that at least LaRussa would manage like we're an AL team. I'm also sick and tired of Ozzie's teams fading down the stretch. I'm fairly certain that based off his reputation that he'd make sure some Twins players went down next season. He certainly wouldn't be kissing Garenhire's ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgrad70 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (Mr. Showtime @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 06:55 PM) I'm fairly certain that based off his reputation that he'd make sure some Twins players went down next season. He certainly wouldn't be kissing Garenhire's ass. In whatever role he's ends up, you can sure sure there will be no hero-worshipping coming from 35th street. And perhaps, this will trickle down to the players as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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