Don't tease me Trib...

[hogan873]

Then by all means stop. Ya know what...I had a DUI back in my day...and I'm a pretty responsible, productive member of society who's a single dad mind you also and have raised 3 awesome kids. Sure glad I didn't have Judgy-judgersons like you tellin' me what an awful individual I am and what I'm "capable of". Get off you high horse.

 

Back to the topic...say Ozzie did bolt for the fish...who would you like to see brought in?

One comment on your response: Well said.

 

Back to the topic, LaRussa is 65, so even if he were to come to the Sox it wouldn't be for a long time (5-7 years?). I would imagine the Sox would try to go younger, like they did with Ozzie. I don't know a lot about the candidates out there, but I wonder if they'd give Cora a shot.

[greg775]

It has nothing to do with babysitting the young men. Yes, we know they are adults. The issue is that LaRussa is a careless individual. If he isn't sober now, then based on his DUI there's no telling what he is capable of. Why the hell wouldn't he do it again? He obviously has no problem getting overserved and driving. He can't control his own life and you want him to manage young, impressionable men?

 

I don't want to talk about this but I guess we HAVE to because the fact that he's like 70 years old isn't enough evidence to stop this discussion. LaRussa for manager....really???? Good Lord, how is that man the future of the WhiteSox? Please explain.

 

I don't want LaRussa.

How bout Torre. We need an elder statesman type next time around.

 

[witesoxfan]

I don't like LaRussa as a manager, but he'd bring Dave Duncan with him. I like Cooper a lot, but Dave Duncan is an absolutely phenomenal pitching coach, and he would work magic with this pitching staff. Duncan would be worth it by himself.

[greg775]

That article in USA Today makes me think it's 60-40 Ozzie leaves for Florida.

I could see him quitting at season's end.

It's sad he can't be a White Sox lifer.

Judging from Ozzie's quotes about "getting fired" all the time, he's still insecure about his status in Chicago.

He probably does need a change of scenery which is pretty f***ing sad that we go from winning it all in 05, to driving the guy who finally got Chicago a WS title out of town.

Five short years. It is sad.

 

I mean LaRussa has had ups and downs in St. Louis and you never hear about it getting so bad they've driven him out of St. Louis.

Let the revolving door of White Sox managers begin again.

Very sad.

 

Whether it is on Ozzie or somebody else, it's pretty apparent he personally feels the heat from reading his quotes. He'll find it very calm in Florida where nobody gives a s***.

If we don't get Torre, this will be a massive FAIL.

Edited September 21, 2010 by greg775

[bigruss]

That article in USA Today makes me think it's 60-40 Ozzie leaves for Florida.

I could see him quitting at season's end.

It's sad he can't be a White Sox lifer.

Judging from Ozzie's quotes about "getting fired" all the time, he's still insecure about his status in Chicago.

He probably does need a change of scenery which is pretty f***ing sad that we go from winning it all in 05, to driving the guy who finally got Chicago a WS title out of town.

Five short years. It is sad.

 

I mean LaRussa has had ups and downs in St. Louis and you never hear about it getting so bad they've driven him out of St. Louis.

Let the revolving door of White Sox managers begin again.

Very sad.

 

Whether it is on Ozzie or somebody else, it's pretty apparent he personally feels the heat from reading his quotes. He'll find it very calm in Florida where nobody gives a s***.

If we don't get Torre, this will be a massive FAIL.

If Ozzie doesn't like the way the media operates in Chicago then he can follow his own advice and gtfo.

[Kyyle23]

It has nothing to do with babysitting the young men. Yes, we know they are adults. The issue is that LaRussa is a careless individual. If he isn't sober now, then based on his DUI there's no telling what he is capable of. Why the hell wouldn't he do it again? He obviously has no problem getting overserved and driving. He can't control his own life and you want him to manage young, impressionable men?

 

I don't want to talk about this but I guess we HAVE to because the fact that he's like 70 years old isn't enough evidence to stop this discussion. LaRussa for manager....really???? Good Lord, how is that man the future of the WhiteSox? Please explain.

 

Yeah that one DUI 3 years ago really makes me think that there is no telling what he will do next. Im thinking mass murder

 

 

I don't want LaRussa.

How bout Torre. We need an elder statesman type next time around.

 

Joe Torre DOB July 18, 1940 Tony LaRussa DOB October 4, 1944

 

 

 

[fathom]

Wasn't Ozzie the same manager who after his first ever game managing the Sox, he told the players to shake off the tough loss and go out and get drunk?

[greg775]

Wasn't Ozzie the same manager who after his first ever game managing the Sox, he told the players to shake off the tough loss and go out and get drunk?

 

Who cares? He didn't tell them to get drunk n drive.

 

Hope you will be happy with our return to a revolving door of managers. Florida will be very happy with Ozzie Guillen.

 

Our next politically correct manager should be nice n dull. s***, why not just name Buddy Bell?

Edited September 21, 2010 by greg775

[Kyyle23]

Who cares? He didn't tell them to get drunk n drive.

 

Hope you will be happy with our return to a revolving door of managers. Florida will be very happy with Ozzie Guillen.

 

return of revolving doors? Im pretty sure if a change is made, KW will stick with who he picks

[bigruss]

Who cares? He didn't tell them to get drunk n drive.

 

Hope you will be happy with our return to a revolving door of managers. Florida will be very happy with Ozzie Guillen.

Right, because Florida has such long lasting managers.

[greg775]

return of revolving doors? Im pretty sure if a change is made, KW will stick with who he picks

 

 

Right, because Florida has such long lasting managers.

 

1.) No way. When managers lose, they get fired. Ozzie has been a winner here.

2.) Florida will fall in love with Ozzie Guillen. He is a rising star; already has one WS title before 50. Should get many more here, but too bad much of the fan base could not just accept the fact he knows what he's doing.

What the team should do is no longer let him be GM and give him a slugging team for the Cell and lead it to 3-4 more WS titles and 8-9 playoff appearances in the next 20 years.

Edited September 21, 2010 by greg775

[bigruss]

2.) Florida will fall in love with Ozzie Guillen. He is a rising star; already has one WS title before 50.

And Girardi wasnt?

[Kyyle23]

1.) No way. When managers lose, they get fired. Ozzie has been a winner here.

2.) Florida will fall in love with Ozzie Guillen. He is a rising star; already has one WS title before 50.

 

1. Ozzie has had losing seasons, and he hasnt been fired. If he goes to Florida, my guess is it is because he wants to, not because KW cans him. However, if KW does fire him, given all the bulls*** ozzie and his family have pulled against this organization, much less KW, I wouldnt blame KW one bit. And if I were KW, I would hang a good portion of it on Oneys loudmouth.

 

2. I love how you have crowned Florida a winner with Ozzie.

 

What the team should do is no longer let him be GM and give him a slugging team for the Cell and lead it to 3-4 more WS titles and 8-9 playoff appearances in the next 20 years

Like they did last year?

[greg775]

Get ready for the Buddy Bell era.

Yuk.

[lostfan]

If Ozzie doesn't like the way the media operates in Chicago then he can follow his own advice and gtfo.

How many times has Ozzie basically asked or challenged management to fire him?

[Kyyle23]

Get ready for the Buddy Bell era.

Yuk.

 

Highly doubtful.

 

 

Why is it that you think the worst of this organization if Ozzie leaves? Its like you are wanting them to do bad because this, for lack of a better word, divorce is happening. It doesnt make sense, if you are a fan of the team you should want them to do well and understand that Ozzie has done a tremendous amount of PR damage to himself and damage to the relationship of the team that employs him through his own mouth and his sons mouth.

[bigruss]

Get ready for the Buddy Bell era.

Yuk.

Your posts are absolutely ridiculous. You really think that Buddy Bell, owner of a .418 winning percentage and who has never managed a better than 3rd place team, would be offered this position?

 

 

[bigruss]

How many times has Ozzie basically asked or challenged management to fire him?

About every other week.

[southsider2k5]

Your posts are absolutely ridiculous. You really think that Buddy Bell, owner of a .418 winning percentage and who has never managed a better than 3rd place team, would be offered this position?

 

Buddy Bell managed some of the worst teams of all time. No one could have won s*** with the Tigers team that he inherited, same thing with the Royals teams he got. He was brought in to work with the kids and try to grow them into big leaguers at the major league level. Using his winning percentage is a terrible barometer of how good of a manager he is, or was.

[Dick Allen]

Buddy Bell managed some of the worst teams of all time. No one could have won s*** with the Tigers team that he inherited, same thing with the Royals teams he got. He was brought in to work with the kids and try to grow them into big leaguers at the major league level. Using his winning percentage is a terrible barometer of how good of a manager he is, or was.

But in almost every case, the teams he managed were better record wise before he got there and after he left, they certainly didn't improve when he was under control. I'm in a wait and see approach with him. He has an awfully good post playing days reputation for a guy with very little in terms of results. We'll see how these recent draft picks turn out. As a manager, I wouldn't be too thrilled if he ever got the job, of course Joe Torre was fired 3 times before he became a baseball genius with the Yankees.

Edited September 22, 2010 by Dick Allen

[hogan873]

Get ready for the Buddy Bell era.

Yuk.

I have to hand it to you, Greg. You are all over the place. As far as Torre goes, I say there's no chance. He's 70, so he wouldn't be around long (coaching, that is). Buddy Bell? I doubt it. If Ozzie leaves, and if he does it'll be on his own terms, I see the Sox going younger again, like with Ozzie. And it might be someone from within the organization (Cora?).

 

I know you love Ozzie, but you make it sound like this team would never win an other game if he's not back next year. Yes, the Sox won it all in 2005, but other than that, how many times did the Sox make the playoffs under Ozzie?

[2nd_city_saint787]

Get ready for the Super Joe McEwing Era.

Yum

[southsider2k5]

But in almost every case, the teams he managed were better record wise before he got there and after he left, they certainly didn't improve when he was under control. I'm in a wait and see approach with him. He has an awfully good post playing days reputation for a guy with very little in terms of results. We'll see how these recent draft picks turn out. As a manager, I wouldn't be too thrilled if he ever got the job, of course Joe Torre was fired 3 times before he became a baseball genius with the Yankees.

 

Detroit won fewer games, but they also were one of the most god-awful rosters you could possibly inherit. I seriously don't think a single pitcher from the 1996 team would pitch on the Sox roster this year. No won could have won 60 games with that roster.

 

Colorado was +10 games his first year. This was the one roster Bell got that actually had some talent on it.

 

The Royals teams he managed weren't much better than the Tigers teams he got. DJ Carrasco had the best starters ERA that year. That team only was two wins less than the year before.

 

I don't know if he could manage a team with some talent, but indicting him because of two of the worst teams of the last twenty years is a crappy standard. That is the same type of camp that makes Phil Jackson a genius because he got Michael, Scottie, Kobe, Shaq, and the rest of them.

[Leonard Zelig]

I have to hand it to you, Greg. You are all over the place. As far as Torre goes, I say there's no chance. He's 70, so he wouldn't be around long (coaching, that is). Buddy Bell? I doubt it. If Ozzie leaves, and if he does it'll be on his own terms, I see the Sox going younger again, like with Ozzie. And it might be someone from within the organization (Cora?).

 

I know you love Ozzie, but you make it sound like this team would never win an other game if he's not back next year. Yes, the Sox won it all in 2005, but other than that, how many times did the Sox make the playoffs under Ozzie?

2 times in 7 years which is better than any pre-Ozzie span in the past 90 years.

[Dick Allen]

2 times in 7 years which is better than any pre-Ozzie span in the past 90 years.

Other than Jerry Manuel, he also had the easiest time to make the playoffs as 4 teams instead of 2 make them now. Gene Lamont won a division in 1993 played for the AL Championship and lost. In 1994 a lot of people thought that team was WS bound. I would think they would have waltzed into the playoffs at least. He was fired 28 games into the next season for Terry Bevington. A move that should get Ron Schueler permanently banned from US Cellular Field.