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QUOTE (Carter224 @ Jan 27, 2013 -> 09:52 PM)
I agree, however, in the big picture Rock/Cena 2 for the Title at Wrestlemania is the optimal main event and there is really no argument against that.

 

Sadly, this means Cena will be champ again in 70 days.. that is what is so so boring

Rock-Brock would probably be bigger though that does nothing for the current state of the wwe. I just think it's absurd to have a year build up of "once in a lifetime" and then come back and have the same match next year.

 

I don't hate Cena as much as most people but I literally have 0 interest in Rock-Cena 2.

 

That being said, I'm still going to order Mania so wwe doesn't give a f***.

 

Edit: and for the record tonight was actually a very good show, the results are just annoying.

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QUOTE (kev211 @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 12:40 AM)
Things rock being wwe champion does. People who are not wwe fans or haven't been in years will talk about this.

 

This is true, but it still leaves a sour taste in those who enjoy wrestling. The Rock was a helluva enteretainer...when I was 15...now he comes across childish and he's not a very good wrestler.

 

Guys like him are why I stopped watching WWE and moved on to indy wrestling.

 

 

Had to watch some indy wrestling to cleanse my pallet.

 

I know I posted highlights of the 04 TPI but the 06 was just as good...Give it a whirl if you wanna see some wrestling

 

Day 1

 

Day 2

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QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 12:13 AM)
This is true, but it still leaves a sour taste in those who enjoy wrestling. The Rock was a helluva enteretainer...when I was 15...now he comes across childish and he's not a very good wrestler.

 

Guys like him are why I stopped watching WWE and moved on to indy wrestling.

 

 

Had to watch some indy wrestling to cleanse my pallet.

 

I know I posted highlights of the 04 TPI but the 06 was just as good...Give it a whirl if you wanna see some wrestling

 

Day 1

 

Day 2

 

WWE isnt wrestling. WWE is sports entertainment.

 

The Rock hasnt been fully in WWE for what, 12 years now? And he comes back and commands the spotlight still, that is awesome. It will be interesting to see what this year brings for him, he has movies to promote and now has the strap.

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 06:26 AM)
WWE isnt wrestling. WWE is sports entertainment.

 

The Rock hasnt been fully in WWE for what, 12 years now? And he comes back and commands the spotlight still, that is awesome. It will be interesting to see what this year brings for him, he has movies to promote and now has the strap.

Which is all fine and dandy. I was a huge Rock fan growing up and I have no issue with him having the belt but I do have an issue with the two headliners of Wrestlemania being rematches, that's f'n ridiculous imo.

 

Whatever, I'll enjoy Punk-Taker and whatever Bryan, Ziggler and Bryan do and pretty much not care about the rest of the card.

 

But as I said before, no matter how much I complain I'll still be watching, so I'm the idiot.

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QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 08:23 AM)
Which is all fine and dandy. I was a huge Rock fan growing up and I have no issue with him having the belt but I do have an issue with the two headliners of Wrestlemania being rematches, that's f'n ridiculous imo.

 

Whatever, I'll enjoy Punk-Taker and whatever Bryan, Ziggler and Bryan do and pretty much not care about the rest of the card.

 

But as I said before, no matter how much I complain I'll still be watching, so I'm the idiot.

 

Remember, there is a PPV between now and Mania, so a lot can change. I still think Lesnar will enter the picture

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 08:42 AM)
Remember, there is a PPV between now and Mania, so a lot can change. I still think Lesnar will enter the picture

I'd be shocked if we don't get Rock-Cena 2 and Triple H-Lesnar 2. And I have no interest in either of those. Hopefully they switch that up but I highly doubt they do. Mania shouldn't be a place for rematches imo(though it does happen quite often).

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QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 08:44 AM)
I'd be shocked if we don't get Rock-Cena 2 and Triple H-Lesnar 2. And I have no interest in either of those. Hopefully they switch that up but I highly doubt they do. Mania shouldn't be a place for rematches imo(though it does happen quite often).

 

HHH Lesnar I doubt, there has been nothing to build that up, HHH hasnt been around at all.

 

This is gonna be Paul Heymans stable vs the world. I have to imagine at some point soon we will get confirmation that The Shield is under Heyman

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 08:53 AM)
HHH Lesnar I doubt, there has been nothing to build that up, HHH hasnt been around at all.

 

This is gonna be Paul Heymans stable vs the world. I have to imagine at some point soon we will get confirmation that The Shield is under Heyman

 

Heyman to get performance review by Vince tonight. Brock shows, attacks Vince, hhh runs out. Just a guess.

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QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 09:09 AM)
Heyman to get performance review by Vince tonight. Brock shows, attacks Vince, hhh runs out. Just a guess.

 

I have to think Brock Rock would be more interesting.

 

One thing also to consider, Ziggler still has the briefcase

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QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 09:09 AM)
Heyman to get performance review by Vince tonight. Brock shows, attacks Vince, hhh runs out. Just a guess.

Ya I can see that. And Kyyle I'd be thrilled if you were right about this Heyman stable vs everyone type deal but I doubt it. Brock-hhh 2 seems to be almost a lock unfortunately.

 

As far as Ziggler, I don't think they have any idea what to do with him at this point.

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QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 02:49 PM)
Ya I can see that. And Kyyle I'd be thrilled if you were right about this Heyman stable vs everyone type deal but I doubt it. Brock-hhh 2 seems to be almost a lock unfortunately.

 

As far as Ziggler, I don't think they have any idea what to do with him at this point.

 

I read the tentative plan is to have Jericho resume his program with Ziggler.

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There was nowhere else to go with Punks title reign. He had to lose. And the Rock has been using the People's Elbow as his finisher for the last couple of years he's wrestled.

 

Last, but not least, for a supposed great storyteller in the ring, Punk has been pretty boring. If he isn't botching big time matches, he's having someone else save him. I've been labled as a Punk hater, so whatever. I do have a shirt of his and liked him up until he became a constant whiner. You're WWE champion and still whining.

 

PS, I hope the Rock changes the ugly look of the belt.

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QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 06:03 PM)
There was nowhere else to go with Punks title reign. He had to lose. And the Rock has been using the People's Elbow as his finisher for the last couple of years

 

Punk wins, wins at chamber, ends Takers streak at Mania, loses belt at Mania 30 to someone that's built up. He didnt have to lose.

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QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 06:08 PM)
Punk wins, wins at chamber, ends Takers streak at Mania, loses belt at Mania 30 to someone that's built up. He didnt have to lose.

 

Undertaker won't give up that streak unless it's to Brock Lesnar if anyone. Even then, I don't think Vince will let the streak go. And you can have the same buildup of Punk vs Taker with or without the title. If you put the title on the line, every knows Taker would lose because he literally could only muster up a match per year, if that. By having Punk lose, you have him losing to an all-time great, and get the title on someone who brings way more attention to the WWE.

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QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 06:13 PM)
Streak vs Streak woulda been a nice way to go with Taker retiring as champ.

 

I of course will disagree with the rest above...What has Punk botched? I can't recall anything?

 

He's a heel you disliking him means he's doing his job.

 

Punk vs Cena the 1st time at Money in The Bank two years ago was a big botch fest that people, including me, were willing to ignore because of magnitude of the match as well as the atmosphere and he was something fresh. That match wasn't clean at all, and not even half of that was due to Cena. He botched(not only in that match) the GTS several times on Cena. He's also botched against Ziggler:

 

5IROB.gif

 

Either way, the whole "eff the system" thing is old IMHO.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 10:13 PM)
Heyman was incredible on Raw

Absolutely fantastic. Punk was real good too.

 

I also can not get over how bad the rock is right now. Cena is going to own him again.

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QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 10:00 PM)
Punk vs Cena the 1st time at Money in The Bank two years ago was a big botch fest that people, including me, were willing to ignore because of magnitude of the match as well as the atmosphere and he was something fresh. That match wasn't clean at all, and not even half of that was due to Cena. He botched(not only in that match) the GTS several times on Cena. He's also botched against Ziggler:

 

5IROB.gif

 

Either way, the whole "eff the system" thing is old IMHO.

One of the "botched" gts' was on purpose. Either way that match was still fantastic because of both Punk and Cena.

 

Oh wells, no need to argue about it, you're obviously entitled to your opinion.

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