Rowand44 Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Carter224 @ Jan 27, 2013 -> 09:52 PM) I agree, however, in the big picture Rock/Cena 2 for the Title at Wrestlemania is the optimal main event and there is really no argument against that. Sadly, this means Cena will be champ again in 70 days.. that is what is so so boring Rock-Brock would probably be bigger though that does nothing for the current state of the wwe. I just think it's absurd to have a year build up of "once in a lifetime" and then come back and have the same match next year. I don't hate Cena as much as most people but I literally have 0 interest in Rock-Cena 2. That being said, I'm still going to order Mania so wwe doesn't give a f***. Edit: and for the record tonight was actually a very good show, the results are just annoying. Edited January 28, 2013 by Rowand44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 434 days and it ends on an elbow drop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Things rock being wwe champion does. People who are not wwe fans or haven't been in years will talk about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 QUOTE (kev211 @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 12:40 AM) Things rock being wwe champion does. People who are not wwe fans or haven't been in years will talk about this. This is true, but it still leaves a sour taste in those who enjoy wrestling. The Rock was a helluva enteretainer...when I was 15...now he comes across childish and he's not a very good wrestler. Guys like him are why I stopped watching WWE and moved on to indy wrestling. Had to watch some indy wrestling to cleanse my pallet. I know I posted highlights of the 04 TPI but the 06 was just as good...Give it a whirl if you wanna see some wrestling Day 1 Day 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 12:13 AM) This is true, but it still leaves a sour taste in those who enjoy wrestling. The Rock was a helluva enteretainer...when I was 15...now he comes across childish and he's not a very good wrestler. Guys like him are why I stopped watching WWE and moved on to indy wrestling. Had to watch some indy wrestling to cleanse my pallet. I know I posted highlights of the 04 TPI but the 06 was just as good...Give it a whirl if you wanna see some wrestling Day 1 Day 2 WWE isnt wrestling. WWE is sports entertainment. The Rock hasnt been fully in WWE for what, 12 years now? And he comes back and commands the spotlight still, that is awesome. It will be interesting to see what this year brings for him, he has movies to promote and now has the strap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 06:26 AM) WWE isnt wrestling. WWE is sports entertainment. The Rock hasnt been fully in WWE for what, 12 years now? And he comes back and commands the spotlight still, that is awesome. It will be interesting to see what this year brings for him, he has movies to promote and now has the strap. Which is all fine and dandy. I was a huge Rock fan growing up and I have no issue with him having the belt but I do have an issue with the two headliners of Wrestlemania being rematches, that's f'n ridiculous imo. Whatever, I'll enjoy Punk-Taker and whatever Bryan, Ziggler and Bryan do and pretty much not care about the rest of the card. But as I said before, no matter how much I complain I'll still be watching, so I'm the idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 08:23 AM) Which is all fine and dandy. I was a huge Rock fan growing up and I have no issue with him having the belt but I do have an issue with the two headliners of Wrestlemania being rematches, that's f'n ridiculous imo. Whatever, I'll enjoy Punk-Taker and whatever Bryan, Ziggler and Bryan do and pretty much not care about the rest of the card. But as I said before, no matter how much I complain I'll still be watching, so I'm the idiot. Remember, there is a PPV between now and Mania, so a lot can change. I still think Lesnar will enter the picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 08:42 AM) Remember, there is a PPV between now and Mania, so a lot can change. I still think Lesnar will enter the picture I'd be shocked if we don't get Rock-Cena 2 and Triple H-Lesnar 2. And I have no interest in either of those. Hopefully they switch that up but I highly doubt they do. Mania shouldn't be a place for rematches imo(though it does happen quite often). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Lesnar resigns for two more years. Expires after Mania 31. Guessing he shows tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 08:44 AM) I'd be shocked if we don't get Rock-Cena 2 and Triple H-Lesnar 2. And I have no interest in either of those. Hopefully they switch that up but I highly doubt they do. Mania shouldn't be a place for rematches imo(though it does happen quite often). HHH Lesnar I doubt, there has been nothing to build that up, HHH hasnt been around at all. This is gonna be Paul Heymans stable vs the world. I have to imagine at some point soon we will get confirmation that The Shield is under Heyman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 08:53 AM) HHH Lesnar I doubt, there has been nothing to build that up, HHH hasnt been around at all. This is gonna be Paul Heymans stable vs the world. I have to imagine at some point soon we will get confirmation that The Shield is under Heyman Heyman to get performance review by Vince tonight. Brock shows, attacks Vince, hhh runs out. Just a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 09:09 AM) Heyman to get performance review by Vince tonight. Brock shows, attacks Vince, hhh runs out. Just a guess. I have to think Brock Rock would be more interesting. One thing also to consider, Ziggler still has the briefcase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 09:09 AM) Heyman to get performance review by Vince tonight. Brock shows, attacks Vince, hhh runs out. Just a guess. Ya I can see that. And Kyyle I'd be thrilled if you were right about this Heyman stable vs everyone type deal but I doubt it. Brock-hhh 2 seems to be almost a lock unfortunately. As far as Ziggler, I don't think they have any idea what to do with him at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 02:49 PM) Ya I can see that. And Kyyle I'd be thrilled if you were right about this Heyman stable vs everyone type deal but I doubt it. Brock-hhh 2 seems to be almost a lock unfortunately. As far as Ziggler, I don't think they have any idea what to do with him at this point. I read the tentative plan is to have Jericho resume his program with Ziggler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 There was nowhere else to go with Punks title reign. He had to lose. And the Rock has been using the People's Elbow as his finisher for the last couple of years he's wrestled. Last, but not least, for a supposed great storyteller in the ring, Punk has been pretty boring. If he isn't botching big time matches, he's having someone else save him. I've been labled as a Punk hater, so whatever. I do have a shirt of his and liked him up until he became a constant whiner. You're WWE champion and still whining. PS, I hope the Rock changes the ugly look of the belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 06:03 PM) There was nowhere else to go with Punks title reign. He had to lose. And the Rock has been using the People's Elbow as his finisher for the last couple of years Punk wins, wins at chamber, ends Takers streak at Mania, loses belt at Mania 30 to someone that's built up. He didnt have to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Streak vs Streak woulda been a nice way to go with Taker retiring as champ. I of course will disagree with the rest above...What has Punk botched? I can't recall anything? He's a heel you disliking him means he's doing his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 06:08 PM) Punk wins, wins at chamber, ends Takers streak at Mania, loses belt at Mania 30 to someone that's built up. He didnt have to lose. Undertaker won't give up that streak unless it's to Brock Lesnar if anyone. Even then, I don't think Vince will let the streak go. And you can have the same buildup of Punk vs Taker with or without the title. If you put the title on the line, every knows Taker would lose because he literally could only muster up a match per year, if that. By having Punk lose, you have him losing to an all-time great, and get the title on someone who brings way more attention to the WWE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 06:13 PM) Streak vs Streak woulda been a nice way to go with Taker retiring as champ. I of course will disagree with the rest above...What has Punk botched? I can't recall anything? He's a heel you disliking him means he's doing his job. Punk vs Cena the 1st time at Money in The Bank two years ago was a big botch fest that people, including me, were willing to ignore because of magnitude of the match as well as the atmosphere and he was something fresh. That match wasn't clean at all, and not even half of that was due to Cena. He botched(not only in that match) the GTS several times on Cena. He's also botched against Ziggler: Either way, the whole "eff the system" thing is old IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 The Heyman stable is money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Heyman was incredible on Raw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 10:13 PM) Heyman was incredible on Raw Absolutely fantastic. Punk was real good too. I also can not get over how bad the rock is right now. Cena is going to own him again. Edited January 29, 2013 by Rowand44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 10:00 PM) Punk vs Cena the 1st time at Money in The Bank two years ago was a big botch fest that people, including me, were willing to ignore because of magnitude of the match as well as the atmosphere and he was something fresh. That match wasn't clean at all, and not even half of that was due to Cena. He botched(not only in that match) the GTS several times on Cena. He's also botched against Ziggler: Either way, the whole "eff the system" thing is old IMHO. One of the "botched" gts' was on purpose. Either way that match was still fantastic because of both Punk and Cena. Oh wells, no need to argue about it, you're obviously entitled to your opinion. Edited January 29, 2013 by Rowand44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 11:16 PM) Absolutely fantastic. Punk was real good too. I also can not get over how bad the rock is right now. Cena is going to own him again. Rocks schtick was cool when I was 15, now its just annoying and childish. Punk out classes him so much on the mic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 No, I don't write for Raw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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