caulfield12 Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 (edited) They're looking very beatable to the Yankees, not the White Sox. They have another possible ace coming up quickly in former 1st rounder Kyle Gibson from Univ. of Missouri. Possibly they'll lose Hudson and Thome...but they could bring back both without any problems. Casilla could end up as the starting 2B again or Punto. If Morneau comes back (BIG IF), then the need for Thome is less pressing if they hold onto Cuddyer/Kubel/Young again. My guess is that Cuddyer might be the odd man out. Then again, paying Mauer $23 million is going to start to affect their overall payroll structure as well. Plus you're going to have to deal with a little bit of apathy from the fanbase after the "Braves reputation" starts to affect their psyche. Not so fun when you're something like 3-20 since 2003 and have lost 12 post-season games in a row. Was just listening to their announcing team and they think that Sabathia coming far inside to Thome with no retaliation is one of the keys to this series. How many times have the White Sox been hit or busted inside or been run over by the likes of Hunter and Young without any attempt at shoving them back in the face? Same story, same song. Just different teams. They're even arguing the stadium music and crowd get the fans more charged up in NY than Minnesota. The Twins' fans kind of gave up and had that "oh no, here we go again" feeling, which it's hard to blame them for really. And the Twins, unlike against the White Sox...are off the top steps of the dugout and hanging their heads in defeat. 1. Liriano 2. Pavano 3. Gibson 4. Blackburn 5. Duensing 6. Slowey 7. Perkins Edited October 10, 2010 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted October 10, 2010 Author Share Posted October 10, 2010 Swisher is still a douche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 The Twins were 0/13 with RISP last time I checked. Every single comparison between Yankees-Twins and Twins-Sox works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgonzo4sox Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 9, 2010 -> 10:15 PM) The Twins were 0/13 with RISP last time I checked. Every single comparison between Yankees-Twins and Twins-Sox works. In that case, I know what's going to happen here with the bases loaded - ground ball double play,weak pop-up, or strikeout. We weren't only bad with RISP against the Twins, we were even worse when the bases were loaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgonzo4sox Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 QUOTE (elgonzo4sox @ Oct 9, 2010 -> 10:21 PM) In that case, I know what's going to happen here with the bases loaded - ground ball double play,weak pop-up, or strikeout. We weren't only bad with RISP against the Twins, we were even worse when the bases were loaded. And there's the weak pop-up!!! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgonzo4sox Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 9, 2010 -> 09:32 PM) They're looking very beatable to the Yankees, not the White Sox. They have another possible ace coming up quickly in former 1st rounder Kyle Gibson from Univ. of Missouri. Possibly they'll lose Hudson and Thome...but they could bring back both without any problems. Casilla could end up as the starting 2B again or Punto. If Morneau comes back (BIG IF), then the need for Thome is less pressing if they hold onto Cuddyer/Kubel/Young again. My guess is that Cuddyer might be the odd man out. Then again, paying Mauer $23 million is going to start to affect their overall payroll structure as well. Plus you're going to have to deal with a little bit of apathy from the fanbase after the "Braves reputation" starts to affect their psyche. Not so fun when you're something like 3-20 since 2003 and have lost 12 post-season games in a row. Was just listening to their announcing team and they think that Sabathia coming far inside to Thome with no retaliation is one of the keys to this series. How many times have the White Sox been hit or busted inside or been run over by the likes of Hunter and Young without any attempt at shoving them back in the face? Same story, same song. Just different teams. They're even arguing the stadium music and crowd get the fans more charged up in NY than Minnesota. The Twins' fans kind of gave up and had that "oh no, here we go again" feeling, which it's hard to blame them for really. And the Twins, unlike against the White Sox...are off the top steps of the dugout and hanging their heads in defeat. 1. Liriano 2. Pavano 3. Gibson 4. Blackburn 5. Duensing 6. Slowey 7. Perkins Good post. I hope this latest sweep by the Yankees weighs on the Twins psyche all winter and into next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgonzo4sox Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 QUOTE (elgonzo4sox @ Oct 9, 2010 -> 10:23 PM) And there's the weak pop-up!!! :lol: And there's the second weak pop-up!!! This is just like watching the 2010 Sox vs. Twins, except with different uniforms on the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 QUOTE (elgonzo4sox @ Oct 9, 2010 -> 09:27 PM) Good post. I hope this latest sweep by the Yankees weighs on the Twins psyche all winter and into next year. Like the previous ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 9, 2010 -> 09:15 PM) The Twins were 0/13 with RISP last time I checked. Every single comparison between Yankees-Twins and Twins-Sox works. I just wish the Sox didn't fold to KC, Clev, Balt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgonzo4sox Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Oct 9, 2010 -> 10:41 PM) I just wish the Sox didn't fold to KC, Clev, Balt. The converse of the Twins being so much better than us head-to-head and within the division is that we were much better than the Twins versus MLB teams outside the Al Central. We have to beat the teams we should beat within the division, and the Twins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgonzo4sox Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 The Twinkies are TOAST!!!! :cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Oct 9, 2010 -> 08:11 PM) I hope the f***ers stand pat. That's why Johann Santana wanted out. Which makes me bring up another subject. Some guys that leave the Twins organization don't have the best careers after that. Sure there's a few but how many guys on that roster would be great on another team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 QUOTE (elgonzo4sox @ Oct 9, 2010 -> 08:06 PM) They have an interesting decision to make: do they resign Thome? If they can get him for the same amount of money, why not? I think with Thome, he loves the game more than money since he's got enough of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Oct 9, 2010 -> 09:47 PM) That's why Johann Santana wanted out. Which makes me bring up another subject. Some guys that leave the Twins organization don't have the best careers after that. Sure there's a few but how many guys on that roster would be great on another team? Twins finished 2/17 with RISP. Hunter did pretty well his first two seasons in LA, but I think that was a bad contract and will get worse over time. Jacque Jones really faded after leaving Minnie...same with Koskie, Rivas, Shannow Stewart, Mientkiewicz, Hawkins, Guardado (he was okay for a couple years), etc. David Ortiz is the big exception, although the PEDS obviously played a role. AJ Pierzynski has continued to have a decent career with the exception of the 2004 season in SF. Kyle Lohse pitched pretty well in the NL after leaving the Twins. JC Romero has hung around, but never as good as 2002-04, another PEDS case with Rincon as well. Losing Radke from the heart of that rotation also hurt...he was the "bulldog" of that team. Pavano's kind of taken on that role, but still not the same. Edited October 10, 2010 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Mission Accomplished! Now I can sick back and enjoy the post season since the Twins are done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newportitis Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Lou Piniella has to be shaking his head...he went 3 and out twice and became public enemy #1....The Twins came out with fear in their eyes from game one - AGAIN - and all we hear about is match ups... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 QUOTE (logic101 @ Oct 9, 2010 -> 11:04 PM) Lou Piniella has to be shaking his head...he went 3 and out twice and became public enemy #1... Not in Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 9, 2010 -> 11:00 PM) Twins finished 2/17 with RISP. The ? now among fans is Mauer can't show up for the big games. He didn't in game 163 against the Sox. In his defense, there were other players on that team driving in runs this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgonzo4sox Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 QUOTE (logic101 @ Oct 9, 2010 -> 11:04 PM) Lou Piniella has to be shaking his head...he went 3 and out twice and became public enemy #1....The Twins came out with fear in their eyes from game one - AGAIN - and all we hear about is match ups... Life is different for managers and players in a small, less intense media market like Minneapolis. They face less scrutiny and criticism, and are more apt to keep their jobs. Gardy's now on an 0-12 run in the playoffs (3 more losses and he will tie the all-time record, which took the Phillies something like 67 years to achieve back in the day), but he'll be back next year - you can count on it. In Chicago, the 24-hour sports radio stations would be continually inciting a lynch mob until they ran him out of town. The small market effect helps managers and players keep their jobs and leads to a more stable organization, but it also works to the detriment of the team when the playoffs come around and the spotlight shines brightest. The small market teams are not as comfortable when the spotlight and the pressure is on them. Just look at Mauer in this series - he was absolutely terrible - he did nothing at the plate, and gave up more bases with his poor defense than his bat earned. He's the classic small market superstar. Does great versus Cleveland in May, but nothing against the Yankees in October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 QUOTE (elgonzo4sox @ Oct 9, 2010 -> 09:01 PM) All too familiar. The Twins played dirty against us, and Ozzie and the umps let them get away with it. However, the umps treat it a little differently when you're throwing at A-rod or Texiera rather than Quentin or Beckham. Ozzie is no Joe Girardi. Gardenhire respects/fears Girardi. Nobody respects Ozzie nor fears throwing at the Sox since he's been the manager. And the umpires have it in for Ozzie as well because of him shooting off his mouth publicly all the time. Anyway, the Twins are hot garbage and have shown once again that they are no different than the Cubs when it comes to post season play. So much for the Twins "Doing it the right way." The Yankees showed the Twins once again what the "right way" is. If the Sox didn't fold like a house of cards whenever they play the Twins, the Twins would never even make the playoffs. Let's hope Ozzie and the Sox finally take note and stop mentally defeating themselves by slobbering all over them every time they play Minnesota and just go out and kick their asses next year and from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Oct 9, 2010 -> 11:47 PM) That's why Johann Santana wanted out. He wanted out because he was going to be the highest paid pitcher in baseball the moment he got out. Everything else was trying to maintain the positive image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Like I said, f*** Division Championships if all you do is s*** the bed in October... f*** THE TWINS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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