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NBA contracts are guaranteed, too. He doesn't need to worry about his "family." lol at him being scared of one of the skinniest white guys on the team. Bosh should never go attempt a dunk, take a charge, run into a screen, go for a rebound, or do anything in the paint because you can get hurt doing all those things.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Jan 16, 2011 -> 11:39 AM)
NBA contracts are guaranteed, too. He doesn't need to worry about his "family." lol at him being scared of one of the skinniest white guys on the team. Bosh should never go attempt a dunk, take a charge, run into a screen, go for a rebound, or do anything in the paint because you can get hurt doing all those things.

 

LOL at Bosh doing any of those things anyway.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Jan 16, 2011 -> 12:39 PM)
NBA contracts are guaranteed, too. He doesn't need to worry about his "family." lol at him being scared of one of the skinniest white guys on the team. Bosh should never go attempt a dunk, take a charge, run into a screen, go for a rebound, or do anything in the paint because you can get hurt doing all those things.

Have some sympathy after all LF. He did take like $15 million less so that he wouldn't have to work as hard and could party more.

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QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 16, 2011 -> 12:15 PM)
Chris Bosh is such a p****. Jeez.

 

And people said Boozer was soft...Bosh seems to be on another level.

 

I'm actually glad the Bulls didn't get Bosh after hearing what he's said. The guy is worse than LeBron when it comes to public comments.

 

Boozer isn't soft but he is very injury prone and one of the worst defenders in the NBA. However, his rebounding and offensive skills outweigh his defensive limitations against almost all teams.

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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 16, 2011 -> 11:07 AM)
He's not a top 10 player which is the statement I thought was ridiculous. He's not close to a top 10 player. He has nice glamor stats, but he doesn't effect his team's performance nearly enough to be a top 10 player. Kevin Love can score a bit and grabs boards with little competition on the roster, but he's not going to ever go out there and win you a ballgame.

You're basically wrong about everything in this post. Seriously.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 16, 2011 -> 12:58 PM)
LOL at Bosh doing any of those things anyway.

 

 

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 16, 2011 -> 01:08 PM)
Have some sympathy after all LF. He did take like $15 million less so that he wouldn't have to work as hard and could party more.

lol awesome

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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 16, 2011 -> 10:07 AM)
He's not a top 10 player which is the statement I thought was ridiculous. He's not close to a top 10 player. He has nice glamor stats, but he doesn't effect his team's performance nearly enough to be a top 10 player. Kevin Love can score a bit and grabs boards with little competition on the roster, but he's not going to ever go out there and win you a ballgame.

I'm not disagreeing that he isn't a top 10 player in the league, but this is just an absurd statement made by someone who hasn't watched the Timberwolves at all.

 

Also, your point about him not winning a ballgame for a team is also pretty hilarious, considering he did just that against Washington last week. 35 points, including 5-for-6 from beyond the arc and 13-of-18 overall. Not to mention 11 boards and 4 assists. That was with Beasley out on a bum ankle and no one else on the team scoring more than 16.

 

He was also the only reason the Timberwolves had any chance at all when they played the Nuggets in Denver, and a HUGE reason why we outplayed San Antonio in two of the first three matchups against them this year (seriously, he averaged 24 and 19 against them this year.. absurd).

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From one Mr. Rosen;

 

There seems to be an increasing consensus that Derrick Rose deserves to be named MVP. While one game doesn’t represent a season, Chicago’s 96-91 loss in Charlotte on Wednesday night fully demonstrated both Rose’s strengths and weaknesses, and more importantly how vitally important he is in the Bulls’ game plan.

 

STRENGTHS

Although his jumper has improved dramatically this season, Rose attempted only two from mid-range (2-2) and one from long-range (0-1). One jumper connected off a pull right, the other on a catch-and-shoot. His other 14 shots were either layups or flippers, and overall he tallied 17 points on 5 of 17 from the field.

 

Penetrating is still his primary weapon to either score or rack up drive-and-kick assists. Rose’s power and speed come together in his incredible ability to quickly change direction and then explode into the lane with absolutely no fear. Twice he zipped his way through a gang of defenders, first for a resounding dunk, and then a complicated layup-plus-one.

 

Rose’s stroke from the stripe (7 for 7) is both smooth and soft. He’s also relatively unselfish (7 assists) and sees the court fairly well.

 

On defense Rose shows great range and admirable toughness. Twice he was forced to switch on to Stephen Jackson, who immediately backed his way into the pivot. Rose refused to give ground, forcing Jackson to take a pair of difficult shots — one of which he badly missed, the other a successful turnaround and step-back jumper.

 

And when the game was on the line, Rose wanted the ball

 

WEAKNESSES

At the other end of the court, D. J. Augustin repeatedly torched Rose in face-to-face confrontations, getting 14 of his 22 points, mostly on tricky drives to the rim. That’s because Rose relies mostly on his athleticism on defense. His posture is too upright and his intensity is definitely low-key.

 

Moreover, Rose was confounded by virtually every high screen that was placed in his way. He went under one such screen only to watch helplessly as Augustin dropped a three-ball. Otherwise, Rose either switched or simply crashed into the screener, thereby creating disadvantageous situations or absolutely taking himself out of the play.

 

On several sequences Rose lost his man while playing off-the-ball defense and literally had to turn in a full circle to find him.

 

The Bobcats’ defensive game plan was to double-team Rose as much as possible, on the wing and especially on screen-rolls. With the ball forced out of his hands, Rose never got comfortable on offense. Plus his passes out of double-teams were often fluttery and occasionally picked off.

 

Out of sheer frustration, Rose uncharacteristically tried to force his way to the rim. The result was a week’s worth of ill-advised flippers (0-3) and missed layups (six), three of which were swatted.

 

Unfortunately Rose still is making the same poor decisions with the ball in the paint as he did as a rookie. In the last minute of play he missed a layup, missed a floater, then had a misguided pass intercepted.

 

So, what to make of this young man’s MVP chances?

 

For sure, he’s carried the Bulls for the entire season, averaging 24.2 points and 8.0 assists while leading them to a more-than-respectable 25-13 record. But for all of Carlos Boozer’s numbers, Chicago misses Joakim Noah’s mobility on both offense and defense. Moreover, the Bulls also need another creative scorer to take the pressure off of Rose.

 

Despite playing perhaps his worst game of the season, there’s no doubt that Rose is extremely talented. However, he’s still 22 and learning what he can and cannot do at this level.

 

His value to the Bulls is easily determined — when he plays poorly they usually lose, when he plays well they invariably win. There’s no question that Rose is Chicago’s MVP.

 

But until Rose develops more consistency on defense and can differentiate between good and bad shots, the NBA MVP should go to somebody else — like Dwyane Wade.

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unless Omer wacks Bosh viciously with a golf club after he got off his late night shift and mcdonalds, bosh has no business saying Omer prevents him from providing for his family.

 

these players make so much money a year, that their family can live a very nice life after only a couple paychecks.

 

providing for his family is the last thing Bosh is playing for.

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QUOTE (DBAHO @ Jan 16, 2011 -> 06:29 PM)
From one Mr. Rosen;

 

 

read the article a few days back, i don't disagree with Rosen's analysis on Rose's defense. He has shown flashes of he can become a very good defender this season, but many times he is still getting torched by the opponent's pick and roll offense. last night alone, he has given up 3 to 4 good looks to arroyo, house and chalmers off a pick. when he came out of college, many scouts thought he could be a shut down defender and a all defense talent, but he is in his third year now, and playing under one of the best defensive coaches in the league, you have got to wonder if Rose is ever going to live up to his potential on defense.

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QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jan 16, 2011 -> 07:13 PM)
read the article a few days back, i don't disagree with Rosen's analysis on Rose's defense. He has shown flashes of he can become a very good defender this season, but many times he is still getting torched by the opponent's pick and roll offense. last night alone, he has given up 3 to 4 good looks to arroyo, house and chalmers off a pick. when he came out of college, many scouts thought he could be a shut down defender and a all defense talent, but he is in his third year now, and playing under one of the best defensive coaches in the league, you have got to wonder if Rose is ever going to live up to his potential on defense.

 

He's improving in that regard. He always had the talent to do it, but my question on him coming out was work ethic, especially on that side of the ball. John Calipari even mentioned several times where he got lazy and a guy who had no business scoring on him would burn him.

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The Bulls are on a 56 win pace halfway through the regular season. Considering how they haven't had all their main guys for almost 50 games and certainly not all at 100% for probably more than 50 games, you'd have to think they have a decent shot in the playoffs of winning a couple of rounds. I think if Miami is healthy, they are the team to beat. Boston's age is going to start to show pretty soon IMO. Orlando has been playing really well with their new players, but if the Bulls are 100% healthy, I like their chances vs. any except Miami. (given that LeBron and Wade are both reasonably healthy as well)

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QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 17, 2011 -> 02:39 PM)
Too big, too strong, too fast, too good.

 

He's awesome.

And only one turnover. Great great game. Korver with a terrific game, too. And Deng continues to make people eat their words about his salary. He is a great offensive player and very very good on D. Rudy Gay just got owned.

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QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jan 17, 2011 -> 02:43 PM)
And only one turnover. Great great game. Korver with a terrific game, too. And Deng continues to make people eat their words about his salary. He is a great offensive player and very very good on D. Rudy Gay just got owned.

Today was the most impressed I've been with Deng all season. He was just absolutely terrific overall today.

 

Anywho, I just want this damn team to get fully healthy. I can't wait to see our actual team out there at some point.

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Don't know why I am thinking about this today, but did anything else ever come of Derrick Rose's "gang affiliated" photos where he was throwing up the GD sign? There was one article (I forget who) that had said the man in the pictures with him was a known GD that has had a lot of problems/charges. Anyways, good game Bulls

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