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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ May 16, 2011 -> 09:02 AM)
I thought the sound of the put back made it slightly better. Sounded violent.

As someone put it on twitter, it was the climax to basketball porn. The announcers screamed so loud they over modulated their mics and I damn near woke my kids up.

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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ May 16, 2011 -> 09:02 AM)
I thought the sound of the put back made it slightly better. Sounded violent.

 

It WAS violent. That was such a snap reaction, it is amazing to have that kind of reflex.

 

 

 

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Ok, I'm ready for game 2, f*** YOU OPRAH!

 

Anyways, I can't even begin to explain how awesome Deng was last night, simply fantastic. Great win, keep up the intensity in game 2 and lets go to Miami up 2-0!!

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QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 16, 2011 -> 11:16 AM)
Ok, I'm ready for game 2, f*** YOU OPRAH!

 

Anyways, I can't even begin to explain how awesome Deng was last night, simply fantastic. Great win, keep up the intensity in game 2 and lets go to Miami up 2-0!!

 

The dude hit 2 3s in the second half on a dislocated finger. He's a real warrior. His change in style of play on the floor and his change in attitude has been shocking. Thibodeau is working some kind of weird magic on these guys.

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QUOTE (chw42 @ May 16, 2011 -> 12:05 PM)
The dude hit 2 3s in the second half on a dislocated finger. He's a real warrior. His change in style of play on the floor and his change in attitude has been shocking. Thibodeau is working some kind of weird magic on these guys.

 

The amount of intensity Thibodeau has gotten this team to play with on the defensive end on a nightly basis is pretty incredible. The fact that the Bulls went from an average defensive team to the best defensive team in the NBA in one offseason is a remarkable coaching job and if they do take out the Heat and win the NBA championship that will be the biggest reason why. The Bulls played at an incredibly high level last night, that level probably isn't sustainable, but if they can sustain that level of play they will definitely beat the Heat (and they don't have to play quite at that level to have a solid shot).

 

As for the Heat, I just assumed all year that their talent would eventually take over and they would win the championship (and they still might) and I still think their supporting cast is good enough to win the championship but it is amazing how little they do on offense (whether it is because the big 3 aren't listening to Spoelstra or Spoelstra has no offensive system or both) to put their players in a position to succeed. I understand that when you have 3 players of that caliber you are going to have a lot of isolation in your offense, and frankly you should. However, if you look at the Lakers with Shaq and Kobe or the Bulls with Jordan and Pippen, etc. those teams still had a significant amount of off the ball movement and cutting which got their role players easy looks at the basket that weren't just created by their stars. Did the Heat have a single half court offensive possession yesterday that wasn't a pick and roll or isolation? The Heat's role players like Jones and Chalmers literally pass the ball to LeBron or Wade and then stand at the three point line and never move from that spot.

 

 

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By the way, off topic but NBA, if you haven't read this article about the guy in the Suns front office who opened up about being gay over the weekend, you should. He's the guy who came up with the idea of the "NBA All Star Weekend" in the first place.

Although he had opened up to his supportive parents and to his younger, only sibling, Nancy, Mr. Welts feared that if he made his homosexuality public, it would impede his rising sports career.

 

“It wasn’t talked about,” he said. “It wasn’t a comfortable subject. And it wasn’t my imagination. I was there.”

 

But this privacy came at great cost. In March 1994, his longtime partner, Arnie, died from complications related to AIDS, and Mr. Welts compartmentalized his grief, taking only a day or two off from work. His secretary explained to others that a good friend of his had died. Although she and Arnie had talked many times over the years, she and her boss had never discussed who, exactly, Arnie was.

 

Around 7:30 on the morning after Arnie’s death, Mr. Welts’s home telephone rang. “It was Stern,” he recalled. “And I totally lost it on the phone. You know. Uncle Dave. Comforting.”

 

Even then, homosexuality was never discussed — directly.

 

For weeks, Mr. Welts walked around the office, numb, unable to mourn his partner fully, or to share the anxiety of the weeklong wait for the results of an H.I.V. test, which came back negative.

 

Sometime later, he began opening the envelopes of checks written in Arnie’s memory to the University of Washington, and here was one for $10,000, from David and Dianne Stern, of Scarsdale, N.Y. In thanking Mr. Stern, Mr. Welts said they “did the guy thing,” communicating only through asides and silent stipulations.

 

“This was a loss that Rick had to suffer entirely on his own,” Mr. Stern said, reiterating that he was following Mr. Welts’s lead. “It’s just an indication of how screwed up all this is.”

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The thing that made the second Taj dunk so impressive is he is literally standing there and the next second he is throwing it down.

 

The thing that makes the Bulls good was what the TNT guys pointed out. When Korver and Rose went to the pick and roll, it took the three best defensive players out of the defensive set. They are so well coached that even at halftime if your game plan is working you have to change it up.

 

The Bulls defense is also constructed to aid in the iso play. You can beat one guy but the help is always there which allows Deng to play up on LeBron. Bosh could have a great series in this regard but it will not matter.

 

Rose looks healthy as well.

 

The TNT guys are light years better than the ESPN puff machine. Smith, Chuck and Chris all explained why they think the Bulls will win and it happened last night. Was also funny to see the arena being taken down around them.

 

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QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ May 16, 2011 -> 01:42 PM)
However, if you look at the Lakers with Shaq and Kobe or the Bulls with Jordan and Pippen, etc. those teams still had a significant amount of off the ball movement and cutting which got their role players easy looks at the basket that weren't just created by their stars. Did the Heat have a single half court offensive possession yesterday that wasn't a pick and roll or isolation? The Heat's role players like Jones and Chalmers literally pass the ball to LeBron or Wade and then stand at the three point line and never move from that spot.

I think at some level, this is why these 3 guys came together in the first place. They've all been isolation guys, and that's hard work. If you go from 1 to 3 isolation players in the same roster, then the defense can't double down on the iso-guy and things should get easier.

 

The issue is...that works against 90% of the league, which is who the Heat beat easily th is year. They beat up on the teams that didn't have solid talent, good coaching, and good defense, but that strategy rarely if ever works in the playoffs. Once you get to this level, you run into teams like what the Bulls have faced, where someone's going to take you to the floor if you try that stuff. The Heat haven't faced that yet in these playoffs.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 16, 2011 -> 12:48 PM)
To be fair, last year's Bulls weren't bad on the defensive side of the ball either, for example they were #3 in the league in opponent's FG %age

 

They were 11th in the league in defensive efficiency so they were solid for sure. But they weren't great and they weren't able to lock teams down like they have been able to at times this year.

 

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They showed a graphic last night that showed the Bulls locking up on D in each of the regular season games in the 3rd quarter as well as yesterday's against the Heat...when Chicago tightens up the D, they stop the Heat.That simple...

 

 

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QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ May 16, 2011 -> 01:49 PM)
They showed a graphic last night that showed the Bulls locking up on D in each of the regular season games in the 3rd quarter as well as yesterday's against the Heat...when Chicago tightens up the D, they stop the Heat.That simple...

Better halftime adjustments by Thibs and his staff? :huh

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