whitesoxfan101 Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 3, 2011 -> 10:27 AM) Simmons had a writer on a few weeks ago who talked about Bosh not being all that close with Lebron and Wade off the court. Those two like to party but Bosh likes to stay home, read, and go to different restaurants and is a lot more mellow. I gained a tad of respect for Bosh after hearing that. I would never put Bosh in the same category as Wade and Lebron but it seems he joined those guys purely to win while Wade and Lebron got together to win, but also party and live a famous lifestyle. I honestly think Bosh would be thrilled if the Heat won the championship this year, and traded him during the summer. He gets his ring, and perhaps can spend the rest of his career attempting to regain some semblance of likability, while also trying to win one without those guys. I've heard a lot about Bosh being traded after the season, and I'd guess a combination of him being a different guy off the court than Wade and LeBron, his salary being so large while being the 3rd best player on the team, and the looming CBA bringing in stricter cap rules is why. I personally think trading Bosh would be a mistake because Wade isn't going to hold up much longer, and you end up with the same problems LeBron had in Cleveland if Bosh leaves and Wade isn't Wade anymore. Unless of course, you have a significant replacement lined up for Bosh, but that brings back all of the same cap issues if you do. Not to mention, trading one of your best players after winning a title is quite the risk. QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 3, 2011 -> 08:36 AM) I get the Heat hate. But to stop watching the NBA if they win it all? lol. That's kinda babyish. I guess the 2011-2012 NBA Thread will be about 200 replies next year. We'll be lucky if there even is a 2011-2012 NBA thread. I don't think it's babyish at all. I need to see the new CBA, whatever it is, before I really give up on it. And I don't think I could ever give up on the Bulls specifically (especially after sticking with them from 1999-2004), just everybody else. I stand by the fact that I think a Heat title plus a long lockout is going to equal an enormous amount of lost fans. Edited June 4, 2011 by whitesoxfan101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 4, 2011 -> 02:02 AM) I honestly think Bosh would be thrilled if the Heat won the championship this year, and traded him during the summer. He gets his ring, and perhaps can spend the rest of his career attempting to regain some semblance of likability, while also trying to win one without those guys. I've heard a lot about Bosh being traded after the season, and I'd guess a combination of him being a different guy off the court than Wade and LeBron, his salary being so large while being the 3rd best player on the team, and the looming CBA bringing in stricter cap rules is why. I personally think trading Bosh would be a mistake because Wade isn't going to hold up much longer, and you end up with the same problems LeBron had in Cleveland if Bosh leaves and Wade isn't Wade anymore. Unless of course, you have a significant replacement lined up for Bosh, but that brings back all of the same cap issues if you do. Not to mention, trading one of your best players after winning a title is quite the risk. We'll be lucky if there even is a 2011-2012 NBA thread. I don't think it's babyish at all. I need to see the new CBA, whatever it is, before I really give up on it. And I don't think I could ever give up on the Bulls specifically (especially after sticking with them from 1999-2004), just everybody else. I stand by the fact that I think a Heat title plus a long lockout is going to equal an enormous amount of lost fans. It´s bad enough we have one on this forum, a bunch of them coming out of the woodwork would really be bad Seriously though, I don´t hate Bosh as much as the other 2, in fact, I would´ve loved Bosh here instead of Boozer, they´re both soft but at least Bosh could hit a 18 ft jumper consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Jun 3, 2011 -> 09:49 PM) LOVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 3, 2011 -> 09:36 AM) I get the Heat hate. But to stop watching the NBA if they win it all? lol. That's kinda babyish. I guess the 2011-2012 NBA Thread will be about 200 replies next year. It's the culmination of a decade of the league going downhill. Maybe it's only babyish because you don't in agree with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jun 4, 2011 -> 03:25 PM) It's the culmination of a decade of the league going downhill. Maybe it's only babyish because you don't in agree with it? I'm not giving up the sport I've followed for 20 years because a team I don't like wins a title. And it's not that people don't like them. People just can't get over last summer. I've been over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 4, 2011 -> 03:28 PM) I'm not giving up the sport I've followed for 20 years because a team I don't like wins a title. And it's not that people don't like them. People just can't get over last summer. I've been over it. LOL at you telling people to get over it. Serious LOL\. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 4, 2011 -> 03:28 PM) I'm not giving up the sport I've followed for 20 years because a team I don't like wins a title. And it's not that people don't like them. People just can't get over last summer. I've been over it. I dont think its the fact a team people dont like might win the title as much as it was how that team was assembled. Everything from the decision to all three players seemingly stringing along the Bulls last summer. Not to mention that a lot of people think the Heat have gotten favorable treatment from the refs during the playoffs, which obviously the NBA has a track record with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 4, 2011 -> 04:39 PM) LOL at you telling people to get over it. Serious LOL\. Yes, get over the fact that LeBron did not sign with the Bulls last summer. That's where 99% of the hate comes from. He went to Miami. Let it go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Jun 4, 2011 -> 05:02 PM) I dont think its the fact a team people dont like might win the title as much as it was how that team was assembled. Everything from the decision to all three players seemingly stringing along the Bulls last summer. Not to mention that a lot of people think the Heat have gotten favorable treatment from the refs during the playoffs, which obviously the NBA has a track record with. And besides the Decision and the short-bus celebration the next day, what exactly did the Heat do wrong? String along the Bulls? They could only choose one spot. I'm sure Knicks fans felt they were strung along. Clippers fans. Nets fans. Especially Cavs fans. As far as favorable treatment goes, that's been going on since I was in pampers. Superstars get calls. LeBron would be getting the same treatment as a Bulls if he were one. And I'm sure not many on the board would be complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 4, 2011 -> 05:28 PM) And besides the Decision and the short-bus celebration the next day, what exactly did the Heat do wrong? String along the Bulls? They could only choose one spot. I'm sure Knicks fans felt they were strung along. Clippers fans. Nets fans. Especially Cavs fans. As far as favorable treatment goes, that's been going on since I was in pampers. Superstars get calls. LeBron would be getting the same treatment as a Bulls if he were one. And I'm sure not many on the board would be complaining. In all fairness, they've been D-bags all year long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Jun 4, 2011 -> 06:02 PM) I dont think its the fact a team people dont like might win the title as much as it was how that team was assembled. Everything from the decision to all three players seemingly stringing along the Bulls last summer. Not to mention that a lot of people think the Heat have gotten favorable treatment from the refs during the playoffs, which obviously the NBA has a track record with. I think the heat have gotten favorable treatment because established stars have long since figured out how to game the system to get favorable treatment rather than anything rigged for the Heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 4, 2011 -> 06:22 PM) Yes, get over the fact that LeBron did not sign with the Bulls last summer. That's where 99% of the hate comes from. He went to Miami. Let it go. I wouldn't dislike him as much if it was any other team. He told me everything I needed when he said he was going to take his talents to South Beach. He wasn't going to Miami, he was going to South Beach. He's there to make things easier, to win a title that isn't hard and has no doubt so that people can stop asking the questions. He's there to party. Miami plays in Miami, not in South Beach, but he plays in South Beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 4, 2011 -> 03:28 PM) I'm not giving up the sport I've followed for 20 years because a team I don't like wins a title. And it's not that people don't like them. People just can't get over last summer. I've been over it. Basketball hasn't been fun to watch for a while. Officiating is terrible around the board. The fact that those Kings teams of the early 2000's couldn't win a ring is a damn shame. It's a superstar league where 2 or 3 guys can win a championship and 3/4 of the league is entirely irrelevant. That isn't healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 5, 2011 Author Share Posted June 5, 2011 QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Jun 4, 2011 -> 12:38 PM) It´s bad enough we have one on this forum, a bunch of them coming out of the woodwork would really be bad Seriously though, I don´t hate Bosh as much as the other 2, in fact, I would´ve loved Bosh here instead of Boozer, they´re both soft but at least Bosh could hit a 18 ft jumper consistently. lol. I"m not a bad guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 5, 2011 Author Share Posted June 5, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 4, 2011 -> 06:28 PM) And besides the Decision and the short-bus celebration the next day, what exactly did the Heat do wrong? String along the Bulls? They could only choose one spot. I'm sure Knicks fans felt they were strung along. Clippers fans. Nets fans. Especially Cavs fans. As far as favorable treatment goes, that's been going on since I was in pampers. Superstars get calls. LeBron would be getting the same treatment as a Bulls if he were one. And I'm sure not many on the board would be complaining. lol, you naming off those teams is helping to make the point. The "stringing along" thing comes from the realization that these guys knew all along they were going to play on the same team since they all got tight playing for Team USA... once it was all put into context it felt like such a huge slap in the face as a fan. Bosh's cameras following him around and tweet-whoring asking people where he should go... Wade's "I'm gonna make a website called whatlittledotheyknow.com" tweet, and him faking like he was really thinking about going to Chicago because of his sons and coming back for the 2nd interview when he knew he never was, LeBron... doing, well, everything, although to be fair he handled having 6 interviews about as best as he could. When I realized they'd planned it all along I felt soooo stupid for missing what should've been obvious. Am I "over" it... yes, been over it, don't have time to be worried about it anymore. But it still doesn't mean I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 5, 2011 -> 01:38 AM) lol, you naming off those teams is helping to make the point. The "stringing along" thing comes from the realization that these guys knew all along they were going to play on the same team since they all got tight playing for Team USA... once it was all put into context it felt like such a huge slap in the face as a fan. Bosh's cameras following him around and tweet-whoring asking people where he should go... Wade's "I'm gonna make a website called whatlittledotheyknow.com" tweet, and him faking like he was really thinking about going to Chicago because of his sons and coming back for the 2nd interview when he knew he never was, LeBron... doing, well, everything, although to be fair he handled having 6 interviews about as best as he could. When I realized they'd planned it all along I felt soooo stupid for missing what should've been obvious. Am I "over" it... yes, been over it, don't have time to be worried about it anymore. But it still doesn't mean I like it. Like I said, I get the hate. I was pissed as anybody last summer. I guess I just can't care anymore. But to quit the sport is excessive and extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 5, 2011 -> 05:20 AM) Like I said, I get the hate. I was pissed as anybody last summer. I guess I just can't care anymore. But to quit the sport is excessive and extreme. No, getting over it is much more like sticking around and b****ing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 It's less that I'm mad that he's not coming to chicago, more that he is the biggest tool I've ever seen in sports. He's the only play in basketball i've seen that consistently plays like he knows the camera's are watching him. I don't give a f*** about his career or that he's good, he's a douche and that's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 http://basketball.realgm.com/article/21396...c#ixzz1OQyoDqin Hedo for Iguodala? Throw Brewer, Watson, and expirings if the Sixers are looking to save money. Hell, give them the #30 pick. Draft a PG with our pick then and do battle with this: Rose/Shelvin Mack Iguodala/Bogans (If let go by Philly) Deng/Korver Boozer/Taj Noah/Asik/Thomas (if he doesn't retire) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 lebrons pregame speech for the camera was nicely scripted by maverick..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 So did the NBA change the over and back rules without telling me? Blatant backcourt violation there before Chalmers three pointer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Barea has been barutal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 5, 2011 -> 07:42 PM) Barea has been barutal Clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Based on JVG's ridiculous commentary, I see where donaghy is coming from when he wonders if hes got money on these games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Chris Bosh continues to play terrible basketball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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