Chisoxfn Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 7, 2011 -> 04:28 PM) He is pretty much Luol Deng. Except Deng is a superior defender and far more efficient scorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) Except Bargnani is about as bad as can be on defense. And yeah, he's really not that good. Edited February 8, 2011 by Felix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 QUOTE (Felix @ Feb 7, 2011 -> 06:43 PM) Except Bargnani is about as bad as can be on defense. And yeah, he's really not that good. Yup. He's quite an average player... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Feb 7, 2011 -> 05:26 PM) That being said, you could do a lot worse than drafting a Bargnani. Eh, 1st overall? I know 2006 sucked, but they'd have been better off going with Aldridge, Roy, or Gay at that pick (not that at the time it would have been advocated). Bargnani is one of the worst 1st overall selections in the last 20 seasons. I've bolded whom I think could arguably be considered a worse pick. 2010 John Wall 2009 Blake Griffin 2008 Derrick Rose 2007 Greg Oden* 2006 Andrea Bargnani 2005 Andrew Bogut 2004 Dwight Howard 2003 LeBron James 2002 Yao Ming 2001 Kwame Brown 2000 Kenyon Martin 1999 Elton Brand 1998 Michael Olowokandi 1997 Tim Duncan 1996 Allen Iverson 1995 Joe Smith 1994 Glenn Robinson 1993 Chris Webber 1992 Shaquille O'Neal 1991 Larry Johnson * - Only for injuries Sure, there's time for Bargnani to continue developing, so the jury isn't out as he's only 25, but yes, you could do worse taking a Bargnani first overall, but not much worse. Edited February 8, 2011 by Steve9347 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 7, 2011 -> 04:53 PM) Eh, 1st overall? I know 2006 sucked, but they'd have been better off going with Aldridge, Roy, or Gay at that pick (not that at the time it would have been advocated). Bargnani is one of the worst 1st overall selections in the last 20 seasons. I've bolded whom I think could arguably be considered a worse pick. 2010 John Wall 2009 Blake Griffin 2008 Derrick Rose 2007 Greg Oden* 2006 Andrea Bargnani 2005 Andrew Bogut 2004 Dwight Howard 2003 LeBron James 2002 Yao Ming 2001 Kwame Brown 2000 Kenyon Martin 1999 Elton Brand 1998 Michael Olowokandi 1997 Tim Duncan 1996 Allen Iverson 1995 Joe Smith 1994 Glenn Robinson 1993 Chris Webber 1992 Shaquille O'Neal 1991 Larry Johnson * - Only for injuries Sure, there's time for Bargnani to continue developing, so the jury isn't out as he's only 25, but yes, you could do worse taking a Bargnani first overall, but not much worse. I'd probably say you could debate Kenyon Martin and Andrew Bogut as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Wolves up 14 in New Orleans at the half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 7, 2011 -> 06:57 PM) I'd probably say you could debate Kenyon Martin and Andrew Bogut as well. Bogut? Really? Bogut? No, I'd say you most certainly cannot debate Andrew Bogut. He is farking awesome. K-Mart was a much more effective player than Bargnani as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 37 straight double-doubles ho hum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 QUOTE (Felix @ Feb 7, 2011 -> 08:45 PM) 37 straight double-doubles ho hum Up 12 going into the fourth Time for Kevin Love to sabotage the team's attempt to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Whatever happened to Barnes? Maybe Cavs suck next year (ok, they will suck next year) and can snag Barnes then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 7, 2011 -> 10:00 PM) Whatever happened to Barnes? Maybe Cavs suck next year (ok, they will suck next year) and can snag Barnes then. His draft stock has slipped since he's had a down year compared to what people thought he'd do. He'll still be a top 10 pick when he comes out(whether that's this year or next) but he's no longer the consensus 1 like he was before the season started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 QUOTE (Felix @ Feb 7, 2011 -> 08:12 PM) Wolves up 14 in New Orleans at the half Final: Wolves 104, Hornets 92 what the f*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 D-Rose just continues to make Andre Miller hate life. That spin on Miller re-broke some ankles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) GSW and Portland really have two of the best fan bases in the league. Unlike people down in South Beach, these fans actually understands the game and cheer for every single basket they make. Edited February 8, 2011 by thxfrthmmrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 This Portland team is incredibly boring to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 This game is frustrating as Hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 7, 2011 -> 11:14 PM) This game is frustrating as Hell. You got that right. I'm uncomfortable watching this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I Wanna Go HIGHER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Luol Deng is f***ing worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Pretty ridiculous the Bulls cant figure out how to call a play to take away the exact same shot Aldridge has been making all game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 This may be the least fun I've had watching the Bulls all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Well Boozer just doesnt understand how to defend the pick and roll. There are only 2 options, switch or dont switch. Every time him and Rose have gone to the same guy, while Deng could rotate over the end result would be a man being wide open with the next pass. Boozer/Rose cant take the same guy on a pick and roll. So very odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 my god, this team is a joke on the road lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 8, 2011 -> 12:31 AM) Well Boozer just doesnt understand how to defend the pick and roll. There are only 2 options, switch or dont switch. Every time him and Rose have gone to the same guy, while Deng could rotate over the end result would be a man being wide open with the next pass. Boozer/Rose cant take the same guy on a pick and roll. So very odd. Boozer is just completely worthless on the defensive end in general. His value comes from his rebounding and offensive game but against teams with legit big men he just kills you on the defensive end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I dont know necessarily what the game plan was, but it couldnt be for Rose/Boozer to both cover Miller and leave Aldridge open. If the Bulls cant figure out how to play the pick & roll they are going to have some tough games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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