Chi Town Sox Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 21, 2011 -> 11:31 PM) They won't have cap for DWill or CP3 unless they take huge paycuts. I don't get it, the reason they got rid of a couple of "extra" players in the deal is so they have more room to sign one of those guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Feb 22, 2011 -> 06:06 AM) Id imagine the Knicks will be big players for Chris Paul or Deron Williams too when they become f/a's, so Billups will for short term be an upgrade and obviously one of those 2 will be a major upgrade over Felton. There has been a lot of talk about a hard cap in the NBA and if so, there is no way they can sign one of the PGs in addition to Amare/Stoudemire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi Town Sox Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Feb 22, 2011 -> 10:15 AM) There has been a lot of talk about a hard cap in the NBA and if so, there is no way they can sign one of the PGs in addition to Amare/Stoudemire. Ahhhh I get it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Feb 22, 2011 -> 10:15 AM) There has been a lot of talk about a hard cap in the NBA and if so, there is no way they can sign one of the PGs in addition to Amare/Stoudemire. yeah, either hard cap or other protections such as much larger exceptions for players to stay with their own team, sounds like a goal for Stern and owners is to curtail FA for the bigger names, and NBA doesn't have the strongest union. If I were to guess, the in the next CBA it will be much harder for stars to move. Another huge concern has to be A'mare's knee and the amount of minutes and running D'antoni is making him play. Edited February 22, 2011 by SoxFan562004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Yeah, although the NFL has floated things like an enhanced schedule, they're basically arguing first and foremost over revenue distribution. The NBA seems like it will have a much more philosophically based lockout. Can teams be allowed to go over the cap? Is it good for the league when things like the Lebron incident happen? How do you create a situation that doesn't require owners to take a loss in order to win games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Any insiders in here that could tell us who the bulls are workin out from the D-league?? NBA rumors says theyre workin out 4 players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 22, 2011 -> 11:25 AM) Yeah, although the NFL has floated things like an enhanced schedule, they're basically arguing first and foremost over revenue distribution. The NBA seems like it will have a much more philosophically based lockout. Can teams be allowed to go over the cap? Is it good for the league when things like the Lebron incident happen? How do you create a situation that doesn't require owners to take a loss in order to win games? exactly, the NBA and NFL labor issues are extremely different. I actually believe NBA owners when they say they need to redo the system to make the NBA work going forward, NFL has a pile of money and they need to decide how it's going to be divided up and if they're going to add 2 more cash cows to their schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 It will be interesting to see if it is worth it to have multiple superstars when the next CBA is done. It could very well lead to a situation where a team has three stars and a D-league team to surround them because that is all that can be afforded. This trade will have to be judged in that retrospect. Another thing that could happen is that draft picks could become very important in the next salary structure because those are cheap and fixed cost players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippedoutpunk Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 QUOTE (T R U @ Feb 22, 2011 -> 05:26 AM) You're right, prolly not better right now.. but this move is the kind that will pay off down the road youre crazy.. now i dont have Gallinari on the knicks to own the kids at nba 2k11.. might as well trade in that game now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Rumor has it James Johnson was dealt to the Raptors, but no word on the return? This was just reported on Boers & Bernstein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 22, 2011 -> 04:48 PM) Rumor has it James Johnson was dealt to the Raptors, but no word on the return? This was just reported on Boers & Bernstein. 2nd round pick, supposedly. This works for me. It might set something else up or open things up for a bigger deal. Edited February 22, 2011 by Steve9347 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 22, 2011 -> 05:51 PM) 2nd round pick, supposedly. This works for me. It might set something else up or open things up for a bigger deal. Hopefully it's setting up something, otherwise it just seems pointless to dump him for what is pretty much nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Feb 22, 2011 -> 04:54 PM) Hopefully it's setting up something, otherwise it just seems pointless to dump him for what is pretty much nothing. Cap space > James Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 It will be interesting to see what comes out of Heat, Orlando, Celts and Bulls in regards to reaction to the 'Melo deal. My guess would be they feel they're more dangerous on a game-by-game basis due to having 2 explosive players, but in a 7 game series, I imagine all 4 still feel they're better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 (edited) It's Miami's first-round pick for this year, which is currently held by Toronto. Not bad, especially if you scout well. Can get a decent role player around 30. Although the Bulls basically traded first round draft picks straight up and moved down 14 spots or so. I would love to pull a Spurs and use it on a foreign player who then blossoms a couple years later for you. Edited February 22, 2011 by maggsmaggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 oh noes. who is going to jack 3's with the shotclock above 20 and foul players after they dunk? so sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Feb 23, 2011 -> 12:12 AM) It's Miami's first-round pick for this year, which is currently held by Toronto. Not bad, especially if you scout well. Can get a decent role player around 30. Although the Bulls basically traded first round draft picks straight up and moved down 14 spots or so. I would love to pull a Spurs and use it on a foreign player who then blossoms a couple years later for you. Malcolm Lee please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 the bulls now has $2.9 million in cap space, and anthony parker makes $2.85 million while parker might be an upgrade over the great keith bogans, i doubt he will make much of a difference on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Feb 22, 2011 -> 07:01 PM) the bulls now has $2.9 million in cap space, and anthony parker makes $2.85 million while parker might be an upgrade over the great keith bogans, i doubt he will make much of a difference on this team. someone was saying the other day that Bogans over the last month or so has been a much better player than Parker has, offensively and defensively. I think I heard it on Mully and Hanley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Marcus Thornton from the Hornets is also available for a 1st round pick. Has very good ability offensively, but defensively he's a mess, that's why Monty Williams won't play him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Feb 22, 2011 -> 08:51 PM) Marcus Thornton from the Hornets is also available for a 1st round pick. Has very good ability offensively, but defensively he's a mess, that's why Monty Williams won't play him. Well he won't play here then too if he can't cut it defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Feb 23, 2011 -> 12:37 AM) Malcolm Lee please. What's the infatuation with Lee? He's been a bust at UCLA so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Feb 23, 2011 -> 03:18 PM) Well he won't play here then too if he can't cut it defensively. Yep pretty much. I read that Courtney Lee is a favorite of Thibodeau's. I still think he's by far the best option for the Bulls for their SG spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Forget about Thornton as well, apparently he's off to SAC along with cash for Carl Landry. Landry gives the Hornets insurance in case David West opts out of his final year of his contract and goes into FA I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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