Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 10, 2011 -> 09:49 AM) Which tells me that a very large chunk of those voters simply aren't paying attention. All defensive teams are not that much different than the Gold Glove awards. Allen and AI easily should've been on the first team. Luol Deng should've made the second team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (Palehosefan @ May 10, 2011 -> 09:08 AM) I was playing with realgm looking at how Howard would end up in LA. I'm sure I'm screwing someone over, but I came up with a trade that might make sense for these teams. LA trades: Pau Gasol Andrew Bynum 1st round pick Orlando trades: Dwight Howard Hedo Turkoglu New Jersey trades: Anthony Morrow Jordan Farmar 1st round pick --------- LA receives: Dwight Howard Hedo Turkoglu Jordan Farmar Orlando receives: Andrew Bynum Anthony Morrow NJ 2012 1st round pick LA 2012 1st round pick NJ receives: Pau Gasol --------- LA would get Howard, and more athletic at PG Orlando would get a young big man, solid SG, cap relief, and 1st round picks in a loaded 2012 draft New Jersey would get a big man for Deron. This is the best and most realistic scenario I've seen. Everybody pretty much comes out a winner. But let's just hope it doesn't happen, anyway. Dwight/Kobe, even Kobe at this stage in his career, would be pretty filthy. I'd love to get Dwight out of the conference. But not to the Lakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Rose got more votes than Deng? Seriously, WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (smalls2598 @ May 10, 2011 -> 09:42 AM) The All Defensive Teams were announced last night: 1st Team (total votes): Dwight Howard 56 Rajon Rondo 39 LeBron James 38 Kobe Bryant 33 Kevin Garnett 33 2nd Team: Tony Allen 23 Chris Paul 18 Tyson Chandler 17 Andre Iguodala 15 Joakim Noah 15 Rose had the most votes of players who missed with 14; Deng had 11; Bogans had 2 Kobe and Garnett each received their 9th selection, tying Jordan and Gary Payton for most all-time. NBA.com article Kobe getting all first team honor is ridiculous. Just about every person who watches basketball knows his defense has been really bad this year. It showed throughout much of the playoffs. His defensive plus and minuses is one of the worst in the league IIRC. Tony Allen has a better defender than Kobe hands down. This is almost as bad as Jeter getting Gold Gloves year in and year out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ May 10, 2011 -> 11:44 AM) Kobe getting all first team honor is ridiculous. Just about every person who watches basketball knows his defense has been really bad this year. It showed throughout much of the playoffs. His defensive plus and minuses is one of the worst in the league IIRC. Tony Allen has a better defender than Kobe hands down. This is almost as bad as Jeter getting Gold Gloves year in and year out. Yup. I don't follow hoops the way I do baseball. But the two best perimeter defenders in the game this year were Tony Allen and AI. I say that with confidence. As my friend has the league pass and we watched a ton of games this year. Kobe hasn't been a great defender since like 2003. Not horrible. But not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 10, 2011 -> 11:55 AM) Yup. I don't follow hoops the way I do baseball. But the two best perimeter defenders in the game this year were Tony Allen and AI. I say that with confidence. As my friend has the league pass and we watched a ton of games this year. Kobe hasn't been a great defender since like 2003. Not horrible. But not great. You really gotta call him AI2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 10, 2011 -> 11:58 AM) You really gotta call him AI2. LOL, seriously. I kept telling myself, "Didn't Iverson retire this year? How can he be a good defender at this age?" It took me a few seconds to realize who it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I hate trying to spell Iguodala. I always forget. But I'll use the 2 and the end from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 NBA Executive of the Year is Pat Riley... ...and Gar Forman. They are Co-Executives of the Year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 10, 2011 -> 12:02 PM) LOL, seriously. I kept telling myself, "Didn't Iverson retire this year? How can he be a good defender at this age?" It took me a few seconds to realize who it was. That got me too, I was like, Allen Iverson??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 10, 2011 -> 12:07 PM) They are Co-Executives of the Year. Fair. Riley had the biggest coup of free agency's history while Gar had perhaps the best Plan B ever and improved the Bulls by 21 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 10, 2011 -> 12:07 PM) NBA Executive of the Year is Pat Riley... ...and Gar Forman. They are Co-Executives of the Year. It should've been D Wade, he's the one who recruited LBJ and his little buddy Bosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalls2598 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 10, 2011 -> 09:49 AM) Which tells me that a very large chunk of those voters simply aren't paying attention. The head coaches are the voters, and you can't vote for players on your team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Link Looks like Phil Jackson isn't ready to call it quits and might consider the Knicks HC job...here we go again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ May 10, 2011 -> 12:15 PM) Link Looks like Phil Jackson isn't ready to call it quits and might consider the Knicks HC job...here we go again. He's basically the Brett Favre of coaches. I've never really bought that he's done for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ May 10, 2011 -> 12:15 PM) Link Looks like Phil Jackson isn't ready to call it quits and might consider the Knicks HC job...here we go again. It's the New York Post. Come on, they are one step short of reporting on Elvis being alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 10, 2011 -> 12:21 PM) It's the New York Post. Come on, they are one step short of reporting on Elvis being alive. I believe they also stated Elvis had some interest in the Knicks job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 10, 2011 -> 12:25 PM) I believe they also stated Elvis had some interest in the Knicks job. But only if Bin Laden turned it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Well, for what it's worth, Steven A Smith has also reported that PJ is interested in the Knicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ May 10, 2011 -> 12:30 PM) Well, for what it's worth, Steven A Smith has also reported that PJ is interested in the Knicks. Carlisemo?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 10, 2011 -> 12:33 PM) Carlisemo?? lol...took me a while but I got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 10, 2011 -> 12:27 PM) But only if Bin Laden turned it down. I think the Knicks actually want Bin Laden as their starting 2 guard. QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 10, 2011 -> 12:33 PM) Carlisemo?? Is it odd that I had the same reaction when I first saw "PJ?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (smalls2598 @ May 10, 2011 -> 01:10 PM) The head coaches are the voters, and you can't vote for players on your team. Doesn't mean they're paying attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 10, 2011 -> 12:42 PM) I think the Knicks actually want Bin Laden as their starting 2 guard. It makes sense to me, but I doubt the Heat will trade LeBron to New York. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 (edited) Lets go Bulls Edited May 10, 2011 by RockRaines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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