Chisoxfn Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 QUOTE (daa84 @ May 17, 2011 -> 07:24 AM) I obviously absolutely love Barkley...but this comment is really, really dumb. I know hes just trying to give the current bulls their props, but yeah the bulls ONLY had michael (9 time first team all defense), Scottie (8 time first team all defense, 2 time second team all defense), and a guy who will get into the hall of fame purely because of his defense in Rodman (7 time first team all defense, 1 second team) and Horace who was himself a 4 time all second team defensive player. Has he forgotten that the bulls held Malone and Stockton and company to 54 points (then a record low for ANY game played) in game 3 of the 98 finals? But yes outside of ONLY starting 3 of the greatest defenders of the 90s (if not all time), Luc Longley wasn't the dominant inside force Patrick ewing was. BTW randy brown was certainly an above average defender, and ron harper won't be remembered as a poor defensive player by any means Don't forget the team with Horace also had Bill Cartwright, who was one of the best defensive centers in the NBA during his time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 BTW, Thunder in 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I wonder what package the Bulls would have to put together to get Dwight Howard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 QUOTE (daa84 @ May 17, 2011 -> 09:24 AM) I obviously absolutely love Barkley...but this comment is really, really dumb. I know hes just trying to give the current bulls their props, but yeah the bulls ONLY had michael (9 time first team all defense), Scottie (8 time first team all defense, 2 time second team all defense), and a guy who will get into the hall of fame purely because of his defense in Rodman (7 time first team all defense, 1 second team) and Horace who was himself a 4 time all second team defensive player. Has he forgotten that the bulls held Malone and Stockton and company to 54 points (then a record low for ANY game played) in game 3 of the 98 finals? But yes outside of ONLY starting 3 of the greatest defenders of the 90s (if not all time), Luc Longley wasn't the dominant inside force Patrick ewing was. BTW randy brown was certainly an above average defender, and ron harper won't be remembered as a poor defensive player by any means Just the recency fallacy. The Bulls' performance on Sunday was really, really impressive, so it's easy to remember all of the glorious details of that over what happened 15 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 QUOTE (Chi Town Sox @ May 17, 2011 -> 10:28 AM) Dalibor Bagaric anyone? Coolest name to say, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 17, 2011 -> 11:02 AM) I wonder what package the Bulls would have to put together to get Dwight Howard. I wonder how the 2010/2011 Bulls who are up 1-0 in the Eastern Conference Finals can finish off the Heat and compete for the NBA Championship. Seriously, let's save the "what ifs" for postseason. This team is too much fun to get speculative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 17, 2011 -> 11:02 AM) I wonder what package the Bulls would have to put together to get Dwight Howard. For the same package they could get a guard that would improve them more than Howard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Can get a guard considerably cheaper. But who cares its not even close to the offseason and we have no idea what the CBA will look like next year. I also would be fine with drafting a guy like Etwaun Moore in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I would easily gut the Bulls entire roster (minus Rose of course) for Dwight Howard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ May 17, 2011 -> 11:27 AM) I would easily gut the Bulls entire roster (minus Rose of course) for Dwight Howard. We're on the verge of winning it all without him and you'd get rid of everyone for one guy? I'd disagree with that move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 (edited) I just want a damn SG who can play better than Bogans. I'd even settle for Shane Battier. Affalo would be ideal, but he's an RFA. I would love to see what the Bulls can do with somebody like Ray Allen. My god that would be unfair. Edited May 17, 2011 by chw42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 17, 2011 -> 11:28 AM) We're on the verge of winning it all without him and you'd get rid of everyone for one guy? I'd disagree with that move. Especially after one of the biggest factors in Sunday's game was their strong bench and their ability to rest their starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ May 17, 2011 -> 11:27 AM) I would easily gut the Bulls entire roster (minus Rose of course) for Dwight Howard. Which would get you the New York Knicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ May 17, 2011 -> 11:19 AM) Can get a guard considerably cheaper. But who cares its not even close to the offseason and we have no idea what the CBA will look like next year. I also would be fine with drafting a guy like Etwaun Moore in the 2nd. I like Moore, but do we need another big man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 17, 2011 -> 10:31 AM) Which would get you the New York Knicks. Rose and Howard>>>>>>Melo and Amar'e but your point certainly remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 17, 2011 -> 11:31 AM) I like Moore, but do we need another big man? I think you are thinking of JaJuan Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 QUOTE (Chi Town Sox @ May 17, 2011 -> 10:28 AM) Dalibor Bagaric anyone? I used to call him Dilly Bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ May 17, 2011 -> 11:27 AM) I would easily gut the Bulls entire roster (minus Rose of course) for Dwight Howard. Jeez. I hate this post so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Yeah Juju is also in the draft, but Moore is the guard. Moore is kind of like Dwayne Wade light, not nearly the athleticism but a similar smooth game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 You guys are so literal sometimes. I don't think Buehrle > Wood meant he would trade 11 players for Howard. He meant that any combination of players that it took to land Howard sans Rose would be acceptable to him. And I agree. In Rose/Howard, you would have one of the most devastating PG/C combos in the history of the game. You set yourself up for a string of title runs. Not just a flash in the pan (hello, White Sox). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I dont think Steve was being literal at all, I think he meant that if you have to give up Noah/Taj etc for Howard, is that a cost that makes sense. After watching this team with its interchangeable parts, do you really want to change the entire dynamic? The more I read about the Bulls and Rose, the more I feel that they should just keep this team as is. Improve on the core, instead of trading away pieces of the core for more "superstar". Howard is a monster, but Im not sure if he fits in with the dynamic of this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ May 17, 2011 -> 11:48 AM) I dont think Steve was being literal at all, I think he meant that if you have to give up Noah/Taj etc for Howard, is that a cost that makes sense. After watching this team with its interchangeable parts, do you really want to change the entire dynamic? The more I read about the Bulls and Rose, the more I feel that they should just keep this team as is. Improve on the core, instead of trading away pieces of the core for more "superstar". Howard is a monster, but Im not sure if he fits in with the dynamic of this team. Is this a sick joke? Do I have to offer a rebuttal to this? I demand a mod ban me right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 17, 2011 -> 11:50 AM) Is this a sick joke? Do I have to offer a rebuttal to this? I demand a mod ban me right now. What makes you think this team is built for a one year run like the 2005 Sox? I don't get that impression at all. In fact, with the youth on this team it seems that it's built to be a powerhouse for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 QUOTE (Palehosefan @ May 17, 2011 -> 11:37 AM) I think you are thinking of JaJuan Johnson. You're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 You can go back 290 pages and see how little I thought of Noah, but watching the Bulls play and watching the failure of the Magic, Im just not sure if there is a point in having Dwight Howard at the cost of turning into a team with much less depth. With the new CBA, Howard/Rose could potentially have to be surrounded by a cast worse than the Heat. I just see no reason to contemplate this while the Bulls are a serious contender this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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