SoxAce Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Nov 26, 2010 -> 01:53 AM) His positioning is definitely the main problem, his size really isn't that much of a factor at all, he's 6'3" while being very strong and athletic, definitely not too small for a pg. This. He doesn't have to be 6'6 to guard people. He has excellent size for the PG position and his athleticism is tremendous. He just needs to make better reads off of passes at the key/take better gambles on/off the ball (or on one on one penatration) and to work on his feet/positioning as Row illuded to. He doesn't have freakish arms to reach around for steals or tip passes at the key on plays (Rondo, Wall) but he can always improve on reading plays and foot work. Edited November 26, 2010 by J.Reedfan8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stocking Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 awesomeness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 25, 2010 -> 11:02 AM) Jordan was also put together a little bigger then Rose. Not in thoses days. He was a skinny 6'4 1/2" guy. Derrick Rose is much stronger than a 23 year old MJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 26, 2010 -> 08:30 AM) Not in thoses days. He was a skinny 6'4 1/2" guy. Derrick Rose is much stronger than a 23 year old MJ Mike was also not a particularly great defender at 23 either...he didn't really become a great defensive player until his 5th or 6th seasons, during those epic battles with the Pistons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 26, 2010 -> 07:30 AM) Not in thoses days. He was a skinny 6'4 1/2" guy. Derrick Rose is much stronger than a 23 year old MJ This is also 20 years later, where the average player is MUCH bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 26, 2010 -> 11:33 AM) This is also 20 years later, where the average player is MUCH bigger. Derrick is still bigger than the average pg though, so it's not really much of an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted November 26, 2010 Author Share Posted November 26, 2010 Only Dennis Rodman. http://bossip.com/312190/dennis-rodman-doe...int-video69691/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 QUOTE (Stocking @ Nov 26, 2010 -> 06:28 AM) awesomeness Absolutely awesome... I just wish it was real. Regardless, I still love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted November 26, 2010 Author Share Posted November 26, 2010 QUOTE (dasox24 @ Nov 26, 2010 -> 04:53 PM) Absolutely awesome... I just wish it was real. Regardless, I still love it. It may as well be. It's like MJ is talking directly to LeBron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 26, 2010 -> 04:57 PM) It may as well be. It's like MJ is talking directly to LeBron. ^Seriously. That's really awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 If Nike had any balls . . . they'd pay the person who made this ad and run it on ESPN. Truly inspiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Nov 26, 2010 -> 05:13 PM) If Nike had any balls . . . they'd pay the person who made this ad and run it on ESPN. Truly inspiring. Somehow I doubt this would be good for their relationship with LeBron... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord chas Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 i think that is an old MJ commercial from the late 90s seems like ive seen it before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted November 27, 2010 Author Share Posted November 27, 2010 QUOTE (lord chas @ Nov 26, 2010 -> 06:50 PM) i think that is an old MJ commercial from the late 90s seems like ive seen it before it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Rose is a beast in terms of his size, build, and freakish athleticism (and obviously his speed). Dunno why that's even coming up. His defensive lapses are all in between the ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ Nov 26, 2010 -> 06:02 PM) Rose is a beast in terms of his size, build, and freakish athleticism (and obviously his speed). Dunno why that's even coming up. His defensive lapses are all in between the ears. Where is the guy that said before the season stated that Rose was overrated and not a superstar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Rose is out tonight versus the Nuggets with a stiff neck. Decent chance he'll be out tomorrow night versus the Kings too. Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Nov 26, 2010 -> 07:04 PM) Rose is out tonight versus the Nuggets with a stiff neck. Decent chance he'll be out tomorrow night versus the Kings too. Ouch. That's fine we need to be very careful with him, if he gets hurt badly the season goes down the drain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 John Lucas III was signed today too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Need rose for long run. No complaints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted November 27, 2010 Author Share Posted November 27, 2010 I've had what Rose has right now before. You don't have full range of motion, and it stings, but it goes away after a couple of days like nothing ever happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 25, 2010 -> 11:11 PM) I wonder how much of Rose's weakness on defense right now relates to the fact that he has to give 100% every possession on offense. Even with his size issues, my big probelm with him is that he's constantly out of position on d. I actually went back to pick up some of his draft stuff, and honestly, I think their defensive assessment of him is pretty spot on, including a couple of things I have talked about before, such as how he handles getting screened. http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Derrick-Rose-1068/ Part Five: Defense Then: “Defensively, Rose has shown both good and bad so far. He obviously has huge potential here, but you don’t always see him taking full advantage of it. It wasn’t rare early on to see him getting beat off the dribble for example, failing to attack screens, giving his man too much space, or just generally being a little too lackadaisical not valuing every defensive possession. But on the possessions where he really put it together and fully utilized his outstanding physical tools, Rose looked like an absolute menace with his terrific size, length and quickness.” -NCAA Weekly Performers -- Freshmen Edition, Part One 11/23/2007 Now: This is the area of the game that Rose has struggled with. When watching him, it almost seems as if he’s holding something back defensively. He doesn’t really get into a stance and try to get after someone. He’s more content with shadowing an opponent and containing, instead of shutting them down. He has all the physical tools to be a lockdown defender, with great size, strength and lateral quickness, but hasn’t shown it yet. He’s displayed bits and pieces of what he’s capable of (like this amazing block on Andre Miller) , but needs to bring that type of effort consistently. He does a poor job of fighting through screens on the ball and off of it. He settles on ball screens –staying with the screener instead of putting up a fight to recover back. Off the ball, he really has a hard time chasing a perimeter player running through screens in the half court. He gets stuck too often, which shows his lack of understanding of how to defend. Additionally, a major component of defense is communication, which Rose doesn’t seem to take part in. In transition defense situations he rarely calls out who he has and doesn’t direct his teammates to pick up open men. There’s no sense of urgency in the half court either, as he doesn’t contest all shots and keeps his hands by his waist when closing out. He needs to get away from this careless mode and begin showing the tenacity that could make him great. From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Derric.../#ixzz16RPKcbga http://www.draftexpress.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted November 27, 2010 Author Share Posted November 27, 2010 It's not really for lack of effort on Rose's part. He just hasn't put it together yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 CJ Watson needs to step up tonight. He's more than capable of providing a winning performance at PG even if he hasn't shown it much so far this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 1:05 in, and I am ready for the John Lucas III era to begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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