2010-2011 NBA Thread

[Steve9347]

lol, right

The man has a point, he just said it in a weird way. Rose doesn't really need to "learn from Russell Westbrook", rather, he just needs to pick up the intensity on the defensive side of the game.

 

The issue is, Rose expels so much energy on the offensive side of the floor, I really have a hard time getting on him for not being a shut-down defender. He has the skills to improve, and I'm sure once Boozer takes some of the focus off of Rose on the offensive end, he can better play defense. I'm sure that has been part of Thibs' game plan from the beginning to weather the storm.

[thxfrthmmrs]

The man has a point, he just said it in a weird way. Rose doesn't really need to "learn from Russell Westbrook", rather, he just needs to pick up the intensity on the defensive side of the game.

 

The issue is, Rose expels so much energy on the offensive side of the floor, I really have a hard time getting on him for not being a shut-down defender. He has the skills to improve, and I'm sure once Boozer takes some of the focus off of Rose on the offensive end, he can better play defense. I'm sure that has been part of Thibs' game plan from the beginning to weather the storm.

 

 

what's wrong with saying "learn"?

 

two years back, even kobe learned a move or two from wade and CP3... just saying.

[Steve9347]

besides steals, westbrook and rondo are among the best defenders in the league at the PG position, Rose has been mediocre so far. westbrook is also the better rebounder, better at getting to the line and hitting the free throws, and if you watch the game, westbrook plays with a nonstop motor and hustles after the lose ball or rebound every time, Derrick doesn't do that, consistently.

 

Rose is probably better at taking over the game, and has a better jump shot. but westbrook has much higher TS% at 56.2% compared to Rose's 53.9% that's because rose is averaging just 3 points higher than westbrook despite taking 5 more shots a game.

 

Rose is the best point guard in the east, at least for now.. but the cream of the crop is in the west.

I do watch the games. I'd wager I watch more NBA games than anyone on this board. Westbrook does get to the line more, but that gap is closing. Rose has upped his trips to 6.1 per game (from 4.3), and is hitting free throws this season at 91%. That bests Westbrook's 88% (albeit on 9.2 attempts per game).

[thxfrthmmrs]

I do watch the games. I'd wager I watch more NBA games than anyone on this board. Westbrook does get to the line more, but that gap is closing. Rose has upped his trips to 6.1 per game (from 4.3), and is hitting free throws this season at 91%. That bests Westbrook's 88% (albeit on 9.2 attempts per game).

 

u smoking bro?

 

 

[Steve9347]

u smoking bro?

Apparently I am.

 

78 percent!

[Brian]

I think it is stupid to argue who is better, Rose or Westbrook. They are both awesome PGs and are fun as hell to watch play.

[SoxFan1]

a few months ago i mentioned that Rose and Westbrook have the same physical attributes and abilities, but yet westbrook is far more aggressive in terms of playing lock down defense, getting into the passing lane for the steal, being a great rebounder for his position, and when you actually watch the game, you will see westbrook is always hustling for the lose ball. Rose has the ability to do all those stuff, but he just doesn't do it often enough. That's why I mentioned Rose should learn from westbrook in this department, but most people on this board didn't seem to agree. Rose is a great player right now, but if he can use athleticism to get more rebounds, steals, get to the line more often, and play lock down defense, he will very soon be the best pg in the league.

 

Derrick is having an unbelievable season so far, and being a bulls fan, i want to say he is playing better than westbrook right now, but objectively, i think the opposite is true, for two reasons. Rose has improved a lot of defense, but on some nights, he still look like his old self and doesn't seem to engage in that side of the ball. Westbrook is still better on that side of the ball. Also, Westbrook is scoring 23-24 points a night, despite playing along side the best scorer in the league, because he is efficient with his opportunities and get to the line more often and hits the free throws. Rose on the other hand is a volume scorer and shot taker, and when boozer comes back, his shot attempts will almost certainly reduce, and so will his PPG. both will average around 23-8 per game, but westbrook has the complete game besides scoring and passing.

Westbrook is also the #2 guy on his team. That makes it a lot easier for him, where as Rose is THE guy in Chicago.

 

[daa84]

Westbrook is also the #2 guy on his team. That makes it a lot easier for him, where as Rose is THE guy in Chicago.

no doubt....Rose is always guarded by the other teams top defender + another guy .....westbrook has another guy on the court commanding double teams and the teams top defender

[Balta1701]

3 straight L's for the Lakers.

[Steve9347]

3 straight L's for the Lakers.

/season

[Balta1701]

/season

 

I tried to look back to the point where we had out last "Will the Lakers hit 72?" discussion, but couldn't find it. Man, we get a lot of posts in this thread.

[Steve9347]

 

I tried to look back to the point where we had out last "Will the Lakers hit 72?" discussion, but couldn't find it. Man, we get a lot of posts in this thread.

That we do.

 

I don't think anyone said the Heat or the Lakers would get there, but people discounted the Lakers once the Heat lost like 3 games.

 

I feel farely certain that no one is ever going to best that record.

[Rowand44]

 

I tried to look back to the point where we had out last "Will the Lakers hit 72?" discussion, but couldn't find it. Man, we get a lot of posts in this thread.

It was only a few weeks ago that a few people brought that up. I say this every year because for some reason it gets brought up a lot but that record isn't being broken in our lifetimes.

[Kyyle23]

That we do.

 

I don't think anyone said the Heat or the Lakers would get there, but people discounted the Lakers once the Heat lost like 3 games.

 

I feel farely certain that no one is ever going to best that record.

 

 

Im pretty sure there were a few predictions on this thread that the heat would get to or eclipse the bulls mark

[nitetrain8601]

Didn't know how much of a terror Westbrook was on until I read this thread. Wowzers. I remember watching him at UCLA and thinking he was one of the most overrated players I had ever seen.

[Chisoxfn]

Didn't know how much of a terror Westbrook was on until I read this thread. Wowzers. I remember watching him at UCLA and thinking he was one of the most overrated players I had ever seen.

As someone who watches a lot of UCLA basketball, I have no idea how you could have thought Westbrook was overrated. He was a strong defensive player in college, who was a nice passer, and explosive athlete. His shot got better during his brief career at UCLA and has continued to improve in the NBA. That UCLA team was very well coached and prepared for the NBA.

[DBAHO]

Bulls vs Magic tonight with Boozer back.

 

Should be a good one...

[Balta1701]

Im pretty sure there were a few predictions on this thread that the heat would get to or eclipse the bulls mark

I'll raise my hand and say that I was one of those.

[Balta1701]

Bulls vs Magic tonight with Boozer back.

 

Should be a good one...

Any report on how much floor time he'll see?

[Kyyle23]

Any report on how much floor time he'll see?

 

KC Johnson was saying on the Mully and Hanley show that it is pretty much up to Boozer

[Balta1701]

KC Johnson was saying on the Mully and Hanley show that it is pretty much up to Boozer

TY, I've been wondering about that.

[southsider2k5]

TY, I've been wondering about that.

 

If he plays 20-25 minutes

[HeGone33]

If he plays 20-25 minutes

 

I heard Thibs talking yesterday saying when he is back he'll be in the starting lineup and there is no reason to work him in slowly.

[southsider2k5]

I heard Thibs talking yesterday saying when he is back he'll be in the starting lineup and there is no reason to work him in slowly.

 

On the radio this morning one of the reports said he was told that Boozer would play 7-8 minutes blocks at the start of each half, plus a short stint besides that in each of the other quarters

[DBAHO]

Looks like you could be right after all Steve;

 

The Orlando Magic have engaged the Washington Wizards in an ongoing trade dialog centered around Wizards shooting guard Gilbert Arenas, Orlando Pinstriped Post has learned. What Orlando would send Washington in return for the three-time All-Star is less clear, but the proposed deal likely includes shooting guard Vince Carter, according to a source. Wizards big man Andray Blatche, Magic forward Rashard Lewis, and Magic center Daniel Orton could also be involved. Both teams have a mutual understanding of what the trade might include, the source says, and it's unclear what factors are holding up the trade. What is clear around the league, however, is that Magic President of Basketball Operations Otis Smith has his eye on Arenas. If Orlando is to make a major trade this season, Arenas will likely be the target.

 

CBS Sports' Ken Berger reported the Magic listened to trade offers regarding Arenas this summer, but rebuffed the Wizards due to concern over the salary remaining on his contract, which runs for three seasons after this one, at a total cost of $62.4 million. In early November, Marc Stein of ESPN.com reported "the Magic have cooled on the notion of a Vince Carter-for-Arenas exchange," citing "NBA front-office sources." However, the source who spoke to Orlando Pinstriped Post contradicts Stein's report, saying Orlando has indeed initiated the discussions with Washington of late.

 

A series of knee injuries limited the former Arizona Wildcat to 15 games between the 2007/08 and 2008/09 seasons, while a suspension for locker-room gunplay, in addition to more knee trouble, held him to 32 games last season. He's played in 13 of the Wizards' 16 games this season, averaging 18.1 points, 4 rebounds, and 5.3 assists while shooting 39.5 percent from the floor and 37.2 percent from beyond the arc.

 

Smith and Arenas have a longstanding relationship dating back to their days with the Golden State Warriors, where Smith served as the Executive Director of Community Relations and, during the 2002/03 season, Executive Director of Basketball Operations. Golden State selected Arenas with the 30th overall pick in the 2001 NBA Draft. He won the NBA's Most Improved Player of the Year Award in 2003, averaging 18.3 points, 4.7 boards, and 6.3 assists. He joined the Wizards in free agency that summer, and then re-signed with them in the summer of 2008.

 

Earlier this week, Brian Schmitz of the Orlando Sentinel reported the Magic are "willing to take a step back" via trade if it improves their long-term outlook.