southsider2k5 Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 I'm in the start now crowd. If nothing else it makes a better impression on how serious you are about the job/company. It also gets the clock ticking for benefits/vacation, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 5, 2011 -> 04:12 PM) I'm in the start now crowd. If nothing else it makes a better impression on how serious you are about the job/company. It also gets the clock ticking for benefits/vacation, etc. Well, presumably he's under 26, so under the new health care bill he can stay on his parent's insurance for some additional time. And if he's taking a 3 month vacation, vacation time might not be the concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Well, Russ made a good point. If he has any dreams of backpacking through Europe or something, now is the time... Otherwise, I say time to start making some real money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 5, 2011 -> 03:25 PM) Well, presumably he's under 26, so under the new health care bill he can stay on his parent's insurance for some additional time. And if he's taking a 3 month vacation, vacation time might not be the concern. That depends on a two important factors. 1) His parents have to be willing to keep him on their employee sponsored insurance (this isn't free for them), as the difference in cost between family coverage, husband/wife coverage and single coverage is hundreds of dollars, which they will be paying out of their checks. So depending on his families situation, this could cost his parents 100+$ per month, or cost them nothing if they already have other children and continue to require a "family plan". 2) His parents insurance plan has to allow it, and they don't have too in light of his new employment status. Most people don't know this, but if your child is elegible for their own employee sponsored coverage, you have to notify your (the parents) insurance company, as under the new law, the parents insurance company can opt to NOT cover that child until 2014 under those circumstances. The Law: Coverage Extended to More Children. The goal of this new policy is to cover as many young adults under the age of 26 as possible with the least burden. Plans and issuers that offer dependent coverage must offer coverage to enrollees’ adult children until age 26, even if the young adult no longer lives with his or her parents, is not a dependent on a parent’s tax return, or is no longer a student. There is a transition for certain existing group plans that generally do not have to provide dependent coverage until 2014 if the adult child has another offer of employer-based coverage aside from coverage through the parent. The new policy providing access for young adults applies to both married and unmarried children, although their own spouses and children do not qualify Edited April 5, 2011 by Y2HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Key point there though is he has to have an insurance offer. If he hasn't started the job, he hasn't been offered their insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 5, 2011 -> 03:35 PM) Well, Russ made a good point. If he has any dreams of backpacking through Europe or something, now is the time... Otherwise, I say time to start making some real money... I agree with this. If you have some money and can have some great adventure this summer, something once-in-a-lifetime, then go for it, and delay the job. But if you are just gonna waste away the summer doing little, you might as well start making money, especially since you sound genuinely excited for the job. You will still have the weekends to do stupid s*** and the vacation days will start to accrue right away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Had my phone interview today...seemed to go pretty well. Hiring manager said he wants to sleep on it and then will talk to HR about flying me in for an in-person interview. May be headed off to the greener pastures of Portland... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 (edited) Well how would you feel after your summer jaunt around Europe that your offer was terminated and that your dream job was handed to someone who wanted to start immediately. People are unemployed in droves. You get a firm offer and a good job you take it and run. Congrats on the job. Take it and run. Edited April 5, 2011 by southsideirish71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 Okay, looks like I got a lot of questions so I'll answer them all here: 1) I will not be staying on my parents insurance plan. I'll definitely have my own through my company. 2) I do have a lot of money saved up from working during college. 3) I don't have any life goals that I have to accomplish now. But, I would enjoy traveling abroad or something like that. 4) There are 7 new hires in my position. They aren't starting everyone at the same time. So some have to start in May and some in August. I was just given first dibs by the HR manager. I need to know by tomorrow, though. So I don't think that it would look poorly on me to pick August since they aren't on-boarding everyone at the same time anyway. I'm leaning towards a May start now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 5, 2011 -> 06:30 PM) Had my phone interview today...seemed to go pretty well. Hiring manager said he wants to sleep on it and then will talk to HR about flying me in for an in-person interview. May be headed off to the greener pastures of Portland... Portland would be awesome! I've only heard good things about it. I know a girl who lives there and she loves it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 What do you guys think about an employer asking for your salary for your current/previous job when applying? For example, there's an employer who asks to fill out a page full of information just to apply, such as salary info, 3 references, permission to contact current employer or your direct manager, etc. For one, I don't like the fact that I'm showing them my cards with my current salary and I also don't like the fact that they want permission to contact my job. It's different if they made me an offer and asked these questions. I don't want my job knowing I'm leaving until they absolutely need to know, then again I don't want it to seem like I'm hiding something because I'm not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 QUOTE (Whitewashed in '05 @ Apr 5, 2011 -> 08:35 PM) What do you guys think about an employer asking for your salary for your current/previous job when applying? For example, there's an employer who asks to fill out a page full of information just to apply, such as salary info, 3 references, permission to contact current employer or your direct manager, etc. For one, I don't like the fact that I'm showing them my cards with my current salary and I also don't like the fact that they want permission to contact my job. It's different if they made me an offer and asked these questions. I don't want my job knowing I'm leaving until they absolutely need to know, then again I don't want it to seem like I'm hiding something because I'm not. Usually they will give you the option of checking whether it is ok to contact your previous employer or not. They will fully understand if you do not want them contacting your present employer. As for your salary history, get accustomed to it. It's pretty status quo these days. I agree with you though, it sucks. But your answer to that is to ask for what you believe your market value is, not what your current salary is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 5, 2011 -> 04:09 PM) I agree with this. If you have some money and can have some great adventure this summer, something once-in-a-lifetime, then go for it, and delay the job. But if you are just gonna waste away the summer doing little, you might as well start making money, especially since you sound genuinely excited for the job. You will still have the weekends to do stupid s*** and the vacation days will start to accrue right away. I too agree. I got hired a year before I graduated and started in September the following year. The summer I had was a blast and the last summer without responsibilities (after college ended I left the job I had been working at throughout college and had basically 2.5 months without any work). I had money saved up and got to see and do a lot. Unfortunately, none of my buddies were willing to do Europe, but Evan, if you and a couple guys were willing and able, that would one pretty badass trip and a nice reward to yourself for all the work you put in over the years to get to where you ultimtaely got (cause after this, a new process begins and you'll start back at square one, busting your ass, building your reputation/resumse, etc.). And I'm going to assume the company you are working for is pretty big and they have the 2 start dates essentially for all the new collegeiate hires. If that is the case and you are going to work with others your age, I might even consider seeing if the majority start at one point in time or another. Because it is best to start with the big group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 5, 2011 -> 08:39 PM) Usually they will give you the option of checking whether it is ok to contact your previous employer or not. They will fully understand if you do not want them contacting your present employer. As for your salary history, get accustomed to it. It's pretty status quo these days. I agree with you though, it sucks. But your answer to that is to ask for what you believe your market value is, not what your current salary is. That's only if its a CURRENT employer, so that they protect you from getting in trouble. Any previous employer is fair game. And in fact, if you tell them not to contact any non-current employer, that will be a red flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 Thanks for all the advice, everyone. Jason, to your point, a trip to Europe with friends would be incredible. The problem with that is all of my best friends have already graduated (since I'm a 5th year) and are working. And the ones graduating with me have jobs lined up and start in June. So, I'd kind of be on my own. Well, somehow I finagled my way into a June 13 start date. The company has 3 new-hire start dates (May, June, August), and the June one was full, but I told the HR lady, who loves me, that I had really wanted to start in June and she said she'd try to squeeze me in there. And she did. So now I have just over a full month to enjoy some time off and then start work. I think it's the best of both worlds - I still get some decent time off before I start working, yet I'm not having to wait 3 months which seems like a long time. I may regret it down the road, but for now, I think I'm making the best decision. Plus, getting to Atlanta in the summer should be nice. I'm sure there will be plenty of going on and I'll definitely go to quite a few Braves games. It would have been awesome if the Sox were playing there this year (since they played in Chicago last year), but oh well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 QUOTE (dasox24 @ Apr 6, 2011 -> 02:11 PM) Thanks for all the advice, everyone. Jason, to your point, a trip to Europe with friends would be incredible. The problem with that is all of my best friends have already graduated (since I'm a 5th year) and are working. And the ones graduating with me have jobs lined up and start in June. So, I'd kind of be on my own. Well, somehow I finagled my way into a June 13 start date. The company has 3 new-hire start dates (May, June, August), and the June one was full, but I told the HR lady, who loves me, that I had really wanted to start in June and she said she'd try to squeeze me in there. And she did. So now I have just over a full month to enjoy some time off and then start work. I think it's the best of both worlds - I still get some decent time off before I start working, yet I'm not having to wait 3 months which seems like a long time. I may regret it down the road, but for now, I think I'm making the best decision. Plus, getting to Atlanta in the summer should be nice. I'm sure there will be plenty of going on and I'll definitely go to quite a few Braves games. It would have been awesome if the Sox were playing there this year (since they played in Chicago last year), but oh well... If you want to go to Europe let me know, Im currently here in Portugal and have hit up a ton of places, eventhose travling alone I can recommend some good places to meet up with people. If not, have fun and get to know Atlanta and a good place to live, enjoy the time off before you start working full time, last chance to be young!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 An employer emailed me requesting to schedule a time for a "short phone meeting" before a personal interview, as he put it. What kind of advice can you guys give me, what should I expect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 QUOTE (Whitewashed in '05 @ Apr 11, 2011 -> 05:07 PM) An employer emailed me requesting to schedule a time for a "short phone meeting" before a personal interview, as he put it. What kind of advice can you guys give me, what should I expect? These tend to be minor technical type calls to feel you out to see if you even know the basics of what the job would entail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 QUOTE (Whitewashed in '05 @ Apr 11, 2011 -> 05:07 PM) An employer emailed me requesting to schedule a time for a "short phone meeting" before a personal interview, as he put it. What kind of advice can you guys give me, what should I expect? They want to weed people out before spending the time for face to face interviews. Show some personality, and show that you really understand the position and can relate real experience to what you are applying for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 (edited) I just sent in my 21st job application. So far, I was only asked to interview once. Job hunting sucks. Luckily, I still have a job that i dont have to rush to leave. Edited April 13, 2011 by Athomeboy_2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Thanks for the heads up guys. The call went well, but I'm not a big fan of the job after he explained it to me. I didn't shut the door on interviewing, but from what he told me it's not really what I'm looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi Town Sox Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Had a mini "online interview" a few days back for a software company where they asked me two question. One of them to speak as a turtle in the 1st person and talk about the turtle's biggest accomplishment As well as take any word in the dictionary and add, subtract or change up to two letters of the word and create a new definition. Good stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 QUOTE (Chi Town Sox @ Apr 15, 2011 -> 01:01 PM) Had a mini "online interview" a few days back for a software company where they asked me two question. One of them to speak as a turtle in the 1st person and talk about the turtle's biggest accomplishment As well as take any word in the dictionary and add, subtract or change up to two letters of the word and create a new definition. Good stuff 1st item is checking to see if you can create/write and read/understand requirements and documents and make them work for software development. Similar question sometimes asked is, "explain to a cave man how to build a car". Second item is ripped off from an annual contest among writers, I forget who runs it, but its the same thing. Some of my fave words I've heard from thatt: The Dopeler Effect - the idea that stupid ideas are somehow smarter when spoken very quickly Deifinestration - throwing all talk of God out the window Doltergeist - a spirit that decides to haunt some place stupid, like your toilet DIOS - the one true operating system Or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 15, 2011 -> 02:02 PM) 1st item is checking to see if you can create/write and read/understand requirements and documents and make them work for software development. Similar question sometimes asked is, "explain to a cave man how to build a car". I understand the theory behind that but who the hell knows how to build a car? The one I've usually heard is "Describe how to make a PB&J sandwich." I'm not quite sure how that's the same question as a turtle's biggest accomplishment though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 First things first, you need to form an exploratory committee and begin fundraising... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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