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Thanks. It was a rather crazy day. lol

I wont take the first job if offered, just not what I thought it would be. Second is a little more compelling. third, I'd seriously consider, it would probably be a minor step down in pay but It's almost exactly what I am doing now and I love what I do.

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No dice on the Portland gig...I asked them for a status update and they wrote me back a very sarcastic reply and said I did not make the short list. They strung me along for 12 weeks since my phone interview. I don't think asking for a status update was rude of me.

 

Of course, just as I accept my fate that I will be a Las Vegas resident, SoCal Edison calls me to recruit me for a position there.

 

Oh my, I don't know if I could live in LA...

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 22, 2011 -> 05:04 PM)
No dice on the Portland gig...I asked them for a status update and they wrote me back a very sarcastic reply and said I did not make the short list. They strung me along for 12 weeks since my phone interview. I don't think asking for a status update was rude of me.

 

Of course, just as I accept my fate that I will be a Las Vegas resident, SoCal Edison calls me to recruit me for a position there.

 

Oh my, I don't know if I could live in LA...

 

 

Yea, I hear you.

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 22, 2011 -> 05:04 PM)
No dice on the Portland gig...I asked them for a status update and they wrote me back a very sarcastic reply and said I did not make the short list. They strung me along for 12 weeks since my phone interview. I don't think asking for a status update was rude of me.

 

Of course, just as I accept my fate that I will be a Las Vegas resident, SoCal Edison calls me to recruit me for a position there.

 

Oh my, I don't know if I could live in LA...

 

12 weeks and they were dicks about it? Eh, it is probably a good thing you didn't make the cut.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 23, 2011 -> 06:53 AM)
12 weeks and they were dicks about it? Eh, it is probably a good thing you didn't make the cut.

Yeah, they sent an email back saying "I apologize our process has been so cumbersome and time-consuming for you. We've had ongoing interviews and are still in process if you can believe it!"

 

It was oozing sarcasm and not very professional, IMO.

 

Oh well.

 

I learned more about this job in LA in one phone call than about this position in Portland after months and months.

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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 23, 2011 -> 12:43 PM)
Damn shack. Sorry to hear that.

 

LA is a whole different animal. You willing to hear them out?

Thanks Marko....I already told them I wasn't interested in another long process, and he was laughing at what went on with the other company. I think when he contacts me next I am just going to tell them what my salary requirements are going to be and say if you can do that, I am willing to talk, if not, I understand and best of luck.

 

At this point I just want to have my near future a bit more settled.

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 23, 2011 -> 01:51 PM)
Thanks Marko....I already told them I wasn't interested in another long process, and he was laughing at what went on with the other company. I think when he contacts me next I am just going to tell them what my salary requirements are going to be and say if you can do that, I am willing to talk, if not, I understand and best of luck.

 

At this point I just want to have my near future a bit more settled.

Understood. I don't blame you.

 

And at least we're lucky enough to be looking for work while still employed.

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If anyone is looking for a fulltime job in IT, specifically SAP Security or Identity Management, I know of a few openings that are actively being recruited right now. This is a Fortune 500 company and one of Forbes' Top 100 places to work. PM me for details.

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So, yesterday my boss finally admitted (without really saying it) that he screwed up by cutting back my hours (and the hours of one of my co-workers). He said, after meeting weekly for the last 2 months, he now has a full understanding of what my co-worker and I do. In January he is going to request our board reinstate us to full-time, assuming our finances are ok.

 

I fully intend on being gone by then, but at least he was willing to say he was wrong.

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Still haven't gotten an offersheet, apparently HR feels that offering this early would put to much pressure on me to accept or deny now, even though my manager said that the timeframe he would give me would be flexible and would make sure I had ample time to look elsewhere if I so desired.

 

But my director had a one on one lunch with me yesterday and told me that he would back me for an offer if needed (and this was all on him, I didn't ask him for anything) and said that he would love to be my mentor. I am really excited about that since he's well respected in the company and we seem to have many of the same values, hopefully it opens up some doors for me while I learn from some of the best management we have.

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QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 7, 2011 -> 01:09 PM)
Still haven't gotten an offersheet, apparently HR feels that offering this early would put to much pressure on me to accept or deny now, even though my manager said that the timeframe he would give me would be flexible and would make sure I had ample time to look elsewhere if I so desired.

 

But my director had a one on one lunch with me yesterday and told me that he would back me for an offer if needed (and this was all on him, I didn't ask him for anything) and said that he would love to be my mentor. I am really excited about that since he's well respected in the company and we seem to have many of the same values, hopefully it opens up some doors for me while I learn from some of the best management we have.

 

Your HR is stupid. This is giving you the chance to go out and find more money.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2011 -> 01:11 PM)
Your HR is stupid. This is giving you the chance to go out and find more money.

I agree 100%, our HR for the IT org here has been awful from what I can tell. They can't seem to figure out how to structure the organization, we have a big mix of senior and group managers even though both titles mean the same thing. And on my team we don't have like Service Engineer I, Service Engineer II, etc, we just have Senior Service Engineer for everyone, even though there is a clear difference in salary and responsibilities that each team member has. They even had to give our top engineer a different title all together to make him a lvl 3. Now my manager and our senior manager have to go through and clean up their mess.

 

The sad thing is about the whole situation is that I would love to work here fulltime, it's where I want to be, and I told my manager that as long as the offer is industry competitive I would probably accept it.

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QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 7, 2011 -> 01:17 PM)
I agree 100%, our HR for the IT org here has been awful from what I can tell. They can't seem to figure out how to structure the organization, we have a big mix of senior and group managers even though both titles mean the same thing. And on my team we don't have like Service Engineer I, Service Engineer II, etc, we just have Senior Service Engineer for everyone, even though there is a clear difference in salary and responsibilities that each team member has. They even had to give our top engineer a different title all together to make him a lvl 3. Now my manager and our senior manager have to go through and clean up their mess.

 

The sad thing is about the whole situation is that I would love to work here fulltime, it's where I want to be, and I told my manager that as long as the offer is industry competitive I would probably accept it.

 

Are they rapidly changing (expanding or contracting) in size? There shouldn't be any reason for that kind of a clusterf***.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2011 -> 01:18 PM)
Are they rapidly changing (expanding or contracting) in size? There shouldn't be any reason for that kind of a clusterf***.

After we implemented SAP in 2006 we've cut about 30% or so of the FT/contractors. The manager we had on this team before our current one was a POS worker and let one engineer (our top one) run pretty much everything for the team. HR has also been pretty weak here for some reason, haven't been here long enough to really know why though.

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QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 7, 2011 -> 01:27 PM)
After we implemented SAP in 2006 we've cut about 30% or so of the FT/contractors. The manager we had on this team before our current one was a POS worker and let one engineer (our top one) run pretty much everything for the team. HR has also been pretty weak here for some reason, haven't been here long enough to really know why though.

 

Sounds like for some reason they are either caught between two different systems, or two different management styles in HR. Bizarre.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2011 -> 01:39 PM)
Sounds like for some reason they are either caught between two different systems, or two different management styles in HR. Bizarre.

I've yet to see competent HR people, and I've had internships at 2 companies (one does $17 bill a year, and the other around $7.5 bill) and a university. HR in theory should be a competive advantage in acquiring, training, and keeping talent, but all I've seen is them shooting themselves in the foot more than anything. Our university relations people here are not great either, they take a long time to get back to people, but I blame that on lack of human capital and resources for that department. You can't expect great things when you've essentially got 1 FT employee for all university relations.

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QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 7, 2011 -> 02:07 PM)
I've yet to see competent HR people, and I've had internships at 2 companies (one does $17 bill a year, and the other around $7.5 bill) and a university. HR in theory should be a competive advantage in acquiring, training, and keeping talent, but all I've seen is them shooting themselves in the foot more than anything. Our university relations people here are not great either, they take a long time to get back to people, but I blame that on lack of human capital and resources for that department. You can't expect great things when you've essentially got 1 FT employee for all university relations.

 

HR has a lot of legal issues to worry about and lawsuits to avoid

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QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 7, 2011 -> 01:17 PM)
I agree 100%, our HR for the IT org here has been awful from what I can tell. They can't seem to figure out how to structure the organization, we have a big mix of senior and group managers even though both titles mean the same thing. And on my team we don't have like Service Engineer I, Service Engineer II, etc, we just have Senior Service Engineer for everyone, even though there is a clear difference in salary and responsibilities that each team member has. They even had to give our top engineer a different title all together to make him a lvl 3. Now my manager and our senior manager have to go through and clean up their mess.

 

The sad thing is about the whole situation is that I would love to work here fulltime, it's where I want to be, and I told my manager that as long as the offer is industry competitive I would probably accept it.

 

Are the people who do internship interviews for your company typically HR people, or regular workers? I only ask because I interviewed with your company a year or two ago, and the guy seemed decently competent (actually I take that back, he forgot his business cards). I think it was for some generic sounding "Supply Chain Analyst" position.

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My internship is going as well as it can go. It is real tough with the lockout to be busy all of the time, but it seems that I have too much downtime. The work I am doing is okay, I am researching and putting together new platforms for health & wellness and social media, but I am not sure if the skills (researching, making a PowerPoint and pitching ideas) are skills that employers want. All I am hoping is that an employer will look at this internship and ask me to open up about my internship experience with a pro football team (and not ask, why aren't you working in sports?).

 

I have found myself wanting to know more about PR and writing content since I do that extremely well as opposed to what I am doing so I set up an interview with a media coordinator. She said 1,000 people apply to their department each year and they only hire three interns, one of which is paid. People who have full-time jobs, such as being a sports information director at a university, have wanted to work for the team along with leaving their current jobs. So it seems like the PR side of sports is rough to get into and keep a job in, considering they work abnormal hours (90 hours a week is what I was told during the majority of the year) and get paid barely enough to live with or support a family.

 

I got to thinking, if sports is so tough to keep a job in, could I possibly do well in an organization that needs product reviews written, corporate PR done or products written up (like Groupon)? My concern is that I wrote a bit in college with the skills I acquired from journalism class in high school but my courses taught me more about statistics/accounting that I'll never even think about again so I feel I'll lose my best skill of writing if I don't practice it. Would it honestly be unwise to enter a PR program at DePaul so soon after graduation to learn about that of stuff and about social media so I can be marketable to employers?

 

Much of the concern stems from what I have discovered about myself at my current job. Either I have a major social disorder or I struggle thinking on my feet in every day conversation to keep it flowing with some of the more extroverted personalities in the organization. I would really like to fix this but I don't know what else to do but keep asking questions and get people to open up a bit about themselves. And lastly, where do people go look for jobs related to their interests (like communications) instead of just seeing the generic crap (sales/customer service/etc.) posted on careerbuilder.com or Monster?

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