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I interviewed for a position yesterday. Went really well. I ended up finding out that one of the interviewers knows a former co worker. The interviewer contacted my friend after she was finished before my interview was even over. He gave glowing reviews about me and she wants me on board. However, apparently I make more than the rest of the others in that position and can't match my salary.

 

Knowing this, I'd like to try to negotiate. I'd take less as this is a great opportunity. Any advice on negotiating with this in mind? There was no advertised salary on the job posting. I hope they're not looking to pay me 10k less.

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QUOTE (Whitewashed in '05 @ Oct 11, 2014 -> 11:57 AM)
I interviewed for a position yesterday. Went really well. I ended up finding out that one of the interviewers knows a former co worker. The interviewer contacted my friend after she was finished before my interview was even over. He gave glowing reviews about me and she wants me on board. However, apparently I make more than the rest of the others in that position and can't match my salary.

 

Knowing this, I'd like to try to negotiate. I'd take less as this is a great opportunity. Any advice on negotiating with this in mind? There was no advertised salary on the job posting. I hope they're not looking to pay me 10k less.

 

Was there a discussion of salary for the position before you interviewed, or during your interview? Do they know what you make now?

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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 14, 2014 -> 11:17 AM)
I wouldn't be surprised if in 5-10 years that is pretty common place in the work environment. I'd take one although I'd also want a regular desk in my office too.

Yeah, it'd be nice to have as a sort of breakout space to do things, but not as a primary desk.

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Not nearly as exciting or important as most of the real jobs you older members posses, but it does appear I will FINALLY be moving on from my HS Chili's job that I've worked at for 6 1/2 years and moving up slightly to a part-time job at Costco. Still not the career job I am seeking, but in the meantime it pays much better, has great benefits, and *should* be a less hostile environment since my GM at Chilis and I do not get along very well. At the very least, this job may allow me to move out on my own if I can pull 30 hours or so a week. I should be making about $1200 or so a month which sadly is about 3x as much as I am making now. Thank god I'm not materialistic, because I'm actually managing to save money on my $100 a week I make now. lol, that's so sad.

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QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Oct 21, 2014 -> 01:00 AM)
Not nearly as exciting or important as most of the real jobs you older members posses, but it does appear I will FINALLY be moving on from my HS Chili's job that I've worked at for 6 1/2 years and moving up slightly to a part-time job at Costco. Still not the career job I am seeking, but in the meantime it pays much better, has great benefits, and *should* be a less hostile environment since my GM at Chilis and I do not get along very well. At the very least, this job may allow me to move out on my own if I can pull 30 hours or so a week. I should be making about $1200 or so a month which sadly is about 3x as much as I am making now. Thank god I'm not materialistic, because I'm actually managing to save money on my $100 a week I make now. lol, that's so sad.

 

if you want a really great job for great money...... the oil fields.

 

they are shipping many int'l people to fill the jobs.

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QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Oct 20, 2014 -> 05:00 PM)
Not nearly as exciting or important as most of the real jobs you older members posses, but it does appear I will FINALLY be moving on from my HS Chili's job that I've worked at for 6 1/2 years and moving up slightly to a part-time job at Costco. Still not the career job I am seeking, but in the meantime it pays much better, has great benefits, and *should* be a less hostile environment since my GM at Chilis and I do not get along very well. At the very least, this job may allow me to move out on my own if I can pull 30 hours or so a week. I should be making about $1200 or so a month which sadly is about 3x as much as I am making now. Thank god I'm not materialistic, because I'm actually managing to save money on my $100 a week I make now. lol, that's so sad.

Live at home and save your money!

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Let me ask you guys a question. As you know, My digital marketing offshoot launched just under couple of months ago. Getting a new thing started without tons of funding is hard. The company I've been at for six years has a product that's old school, which is why they asked me to take my very successful team and create revenue.

 

We've had some opportunities (300k in proposals) but are still looking for a W. We had some fall through that seemed like locks. It sucks.

 

We've had to learn along the way. This can happen given time, but time might be running short for the company. It's extremely volatile. I have a baby on the way and am tired of the non stop stress. I'm incredibly good at digital marketing, which is in demand right now. That said, I hate interviewing.

 

What's worse is that if I leave, the 7 kids working for me are f***ed. They will shut that s*** down the moment I leave.

 

I really need to stop stressing and join an organization that is stable.

 

Am I horrible if I start looking? I want to throw up, but I want to put my family first.

 

Also, anyone out there need an incredibly gifted digital marketer?

 

Thanks for listening, Soxtalk.

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QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Oct 20, 2014 -> 07:00 PM)
Not nearly as exciting or important as most of the real jobs you older members posses, but it does appear I will FINALLY be moving on from my HS Chili's job that I've worked at for 6 1/2 years and moving up slightly to a part-time job at Costco. Still not the career job I am seeking, but in the meantime it pays much better, has great benefits, and *should* be a less hostile environment since my GM at Chilis and I do not get along very well. At the very least, this job may allow me to move out on my own if I can pull 30 hours or so a week. I should be making about $1200 or so a month which sadly is about 3x as much as I am making now. Thank god I'm not materialistic, because I'm actually managing to save money on my $100 a week I make now. lol, that's so sad.

 

I've always heard Costco is one of the best companies to work for, they treat their employees great. And shack is right, don't have to be in such a hurry to move out, save money with free lodging.

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From what it sounds like, the answer to "am I horrible if I start looking" is buried in the "time might be running short for the company."

 

If that's the case, and you're thinking about something that might happen in the next calendar year, and it would take a miracle for that to be avoided, then absolutely not. Start looking asap.

 

If You're overselling that, and there's still a few years of security for you and 6 other people that will vanish if you leave, then I might be a bit more hesitant on that reply.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 20, 2014 -> 08:00 PM)
From what it sounds like, the answer to "am I horrible if I start looking" is buried in the "time might be running short for the company."

 

If that's the case, and you're thinking about something that might happen in the next calendar year, and it would take a miracle for that to be avoided, then absolutely not. Start looking asap.

 

If You're overselling that, and there's still a few years of security for you and 6 other people that will vanish if you leave, then I might be a bit more hesitant on that reply.

We could be talking a month, I was told today. Great management by the guys in charge.

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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 20, 2014 -> 08:05 PM)
We could be talking a month, I was told today. Great management by the guys in charge.

Or apparently if we close one deal, the current investors will float us for good to get started as an official offshoot. If I had three years, I wouldn't think twice and stay. f***, if they could guarantee the team 6 months I'd be in no matter what.

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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 20, 2014 -> 09:06 PM)
Or apparently if we close one deal, the current investors will float us for good to get started as an official offshoot. If I had three years, I wouldn't think twice and stay. f***, if they could guarantee the team 6 months I'd be in no matter what.

When will you know about the closing of that deal?

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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 20, 2014 -> 09:11 PM)
Two weeks

If you wait until then before sending anything out is it a huge opportunity lost for you? Do you have a resume and application ready to go and a place to apply for sitting there right now or are you talking about needing a week outside work to get the application together?

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 20, 2014 -> 08:17 PM)
If you wait until then before sending anything out is it a huge opportunity lost for you? Do you have a resume and application ready to go and a place to apply for sitting there right now or are you talking about needing a week outside work to get the application together?

There's a decent opportunity right now. That said, once I flip that switch I have to flip it.

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Does anyone here work in software QA? I am considering a change in career path and I would like to know what type of education is involved, since it is completely different than my educational background. Do you need a BS in Computer Science/Software Engineering? Where does Software QA lead to after advancing in your career? Please PM me with info. Thanks.

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Steve, so let me get this straight...you've been working for this company for a few years now...I have followed this thread and read that you have been promoted several times in the last 18 months or so, your salary has more than doubled, etc. So at some point, the powers that be identified you as a top talent/successful leader/innovator and tapped you to lead a team to create and implement a separate product than what the core business of the company is, which is this digital marketing arm which you have successfully launched, but are still looking for your first client. Now, these same powers that be are thinking of pulling the plug on this project after like 3 months.

 

Is that basically it in a nutshell?

 

So say they did pull the plug, are they pulling the plug on the entire company or just the digital marketing arm you spearheaded? If the latter, will they pull you back into some other position within the broader company, or will they send you packing?

 

Ultimately, you've got to watch out for Steve and Steve's family. I understand this is sort of your baby, but you've got a real baby on the way. Start looking or let it be known that you might be looking. My feeling is if these folks are bailing on this thing after three months, that this isn't going to be the last time you're going to be put under stress like this.

 

I work for a utility company, and while I can start daydreaming about working for an organization that is a bit more dynamic or organic, there is something to be said for stability. There is something to be said for knowing the check is going to be in the bank every two weeks and it's going to clear. And there is something to be said for being on a career trajectory that is pretty much known, give or take a few variables.

 

I watched a feature on Bill O'Brien, the coach of the Texans last night, and they were talking about how he took the HC position at Penn State after the Paterno/Sandusky mess, stabilized it, but then left for Houston after only two years. He was highly criticized in Pennsylvania for the move. Well, it turns out that Bill O'Brien has a son with a rare genetic disease and Texas Children's Hospital happens to be the largest children's hospital in the country, with many specialists who treat this very same disease his son has. The moral of the story is that jobs are just jobs. You make the best decisions for your career you can, and that may include loyalty to a company or to employees, but ultimately, you've got to watch out for Steve and Steve's family. Do what you think is best for them, and everything else be damned.

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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 20, 2014 -> 06:05 PM)
We could be talking a month, I was told today. Great management by the guys in charge.

I think it would not be prudent to at least have your eye out there for what other opportunities exist. That doesn't mean you don't bust your butt with what you have going on, but nothing wrong with seeing what else is out there too.

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