witesoxfan Posted December 24, 2010 Author Share Posted December 24, 2010 QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Dec 24, 2010 -> 06:38 AM) Right, I'm assuming it was at night and if someone is jaywalking its hard to see them even sober at times... for him to get similar treatment to the guy from the Adenhart case would be ridiculous. It was like 5 in the morning, but it's still pretty damn hard to see him at that point in time. And considering it was 5 in the morning, it's assumed that Stallworth had waited until he thought he was sober, so there was atleast an attempt to be responsible. As Jas mentioned, the dude who killed Adenhart (and 2 others) was absolutely bombed, because it was like the peak of the night. Drinking and driving is stupid. You think the worst you can get slapped with is a slap on the wrist, lose your license, maybe spend a couple nights in jail and then BAM, you're in prison. Just stupid, stupid, stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 24, 2010 -> 07:41 AM) It was like 5 in the morning, but it's still pretty damn hard to see him at that point in time. And considering it was 5 in the morning, it's assumed that Stallworth had waited until he thought he was sober, so there was atleast an attempt to be responsible. As Jas mentioned, the dude who killed Adenhart (and 2 others) was absolutely bombed, because it was like the peak of the night. Drinking and driving is stupid. You think the worst you can get slapped with is a slap on the wrist, lose your license, maybe spend a couple nights in jail and then BAM, you're in prison. Just stupid, stupid, stupid. Stallworth settled with the family of the victim a little after the criminal sentence was final, but I believe I read the terms were in place for the settlement before the criminal matter was resolved... while obviously it doesn't have a direct effect on the prosecutor, it makes a difference because you didn't have the family of the victim pressuring the prosecutor to throw the book at him. Stallworth's attorney publicly were confident they could have beaten it, but said he pleaded guilty to do what was "morally right." Also, he ran the risk of a harsher sentence than what he got if a judge or jury (not sure how it goes in FL) sentenced him after a trial. Although I believe it was FL also where the ex-NYY just got acquitted of the homicide charge stemming from his DUI and that fact pattern was more horrific (obviously both terrible because somebody died). Yes DUIs are not worth it, I was a public defender for 2 years and for a good portion was in the courtroom that handled DUIs. It is way cheaper and less of a hassle to get your car towed, a 50 mile taxi ride or a hotel room, hell in some cases a helicopter ride would be cheaper. Edited December 24, 2010 by SoxFan562004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Somebody correct me if I'm wrong...Will the Rays net 11 picks next year if they don't resign any of their remaining free agents? That's a crip load of picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Dec 24, 2010 -> 10:02 AM) Stallworth settled with the family of the victim a little after the criminal sentence was final, but I believe I read the terms were in place for the settlement before the criminal matter was resolved... while obviously it doesn't have a direct effect on the prosecutor, it makes a difference because you didn't have the family of the victim pressuring the prosecutor to throw the book at him. Stallworth's attorney publicly were confident they could have beaten it, but said he pleaded guilty to do what was "morally right." Also, he ran the risk of a harsher sentence than what he got if a judge or jury (not sure how it goes in FL) sentenced him after a trial. Although I believe it was FL also where the ex-NYY just got acquitted of the homicide charge stemming from his DUI and that fact pattern was more horrific (obviously both terrible because somebody died). Yes DUIs are not worth it, I was a public defender for 2 years and for a good portion was in the courtroom that handled DUIs. It is way cheaper and less of a hassle to get your car towed, a 50 mile taxi ride or a hotel room, hell in some cases a helicopter ride would be cheaper. Messed up thing is I had actually called a taxi company because I knew I was blitzed. But when I found out the estimated cost would be something like $43 (I was like 45 minutes away from my house), I just said f*** it. I didn't want to spend that. So ultimately because I didn't want to spend a measly $43 I lost my Explorer (god I miss that car), got my license suspended for three months, and between fines, classes, tests, ect, I dished out a good $3000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Random MLB stat of the day via Joe Posnaski's Twitter A Christmas baseball thought: Albert Pujols has averaged .331, 43 doubles, 41 homers, 119 runs, 123 RBIs his first 10 years. Here's the thing: Only nine players in baseball history have pulled off that Pujols average season even once in their careers. Pujols, Ruth, Greenberg, Trosky, Klein, Gehrig, Hornsby and the Rockies Helton and Walker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Rangers are about to sign Brandon Webb. Could be a huge coup if he's healthy. Easy to forget this guy was one of the top 10 pitchers in baseball just two years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 26, 2010 -> 04:26 PM) Rangers are about to sign Brandon Webb. Could be a huge coup if he's healthy. Easy to forget this guy was one of the top 10 pitchers in baseball just two years ago. Massive if, but worth taking a shot on. Glad it wasn't the Cubs that got him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 26, 2010 -> 04:29 PM) Massive if, but worth taking a shot on. Glad it wasn't the Cubs that got him. Yup. I was worried about the Cubs getting him. Totally worth the risk for the Rangers. I'm sure the contract is heavy with incentives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Jim Hendry fails again. Keep having faith in him Cubs front office. Eventually he'll get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 27, 2010 Author Share Posted December 27, 2010 It's worth the risk, but there is the possibility that he contributes as much this year as Chien-Ming Wang did for the Nationals last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Dotel signs with Toronto, 1 year $3.5 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 26, 2010 -> 08:27 PM) Dotel signs with Toronto, 1 year $3.5 million. Wow, I like that for Toronto. Makes you believe we really are done making any major additions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 26, 2010 -> 08:40 PM) Wow, I like that for Toronto. Makes you believe we really are done making any major additions. as of an hour ago, heyman has this deal as not done, Pirates and Rays still in running for Dotel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 The Rangers needed to take a risk like that as I believe their rotation is going to be pretty bad next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 26, 2010 -> 04:26 PM) Rangers are about to sign Brandon Webb. Could be a huge coup if he's healthy. Easy to forget this guy was one of the top 10 pitchers in baseball just two years ago. Isn't he throwing like 83mph? I don't know why anyone would really want him except for the lowest of contracts. I wouldn't consider that a "miss" for the Cubs, or any other team for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Dec 26, 2010 -> 11:50 PM) Isn't he throwing like 83mph? I don't know why anyone would really want him except for the lowest of contracts. I wouldn't consider that a "miss" for the Cubs, or any other team for that matter. It's a 1-year deal with what I'm sure are heavy incentives. There's virtually no risk and a big reward if he's even 75 percent of what he was a couple years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 26, 2010 -> 04:26 PM) Rangers are about to sign Brandon Webb. Could be a huge coup if he's healthy. Easy to forget this guy was one of the top 10 pitchers in baseball just two years ago. I was hoping that the Rangers might sign Carl Pavano so it would keep him away from the Twins. But I'm glad the Twins didn't get Webb either. Maybe the Nationals will quit screwing around and sign Pavano now. The Twins are going be hosed if he signs elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Dec 26, 2010 -> 11:50 PM) Isn't he throwing like 83mph? I don't know why anyone would really want him except for the lowest of contracts. I wouldn't consider that a "miss" for the Cubs, or any other team for that matter. Even if he is today, there is no reason he can't improve on that in the next four months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalls2598 Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 27, 2010 -> 12:06 AM) It's a 1-year deal with what I'm sure are heavy incentives. There's virtually no risk and a big reward if he's even 75 percent of what he was a couple years ago. per Rotoworld, it's a $3 million base salary, with incentives that could get him a couple million more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 27, 2010 -> 08:42 AM) Even if he is today, there is no reason he can't improve on that in the next four months. There is a reason, his shoulder surgery. Far from a guarantee you get previous velocity back. 83 is just so far off - my point is that it's not a miss for the Cubs. I wouldn't want the Sox throwing 3 mil at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Webb's not going to be anything like he was this year. Maybe in 2-3 years he can regain his form, but this is like the Rangers signing Freddy Garcia for a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 The Rangers team doctor is also the same doctor who performed Webb's shoulder surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Phillies re-sign Romero. Brewers add Saito. I'm guessing Saito will be a setup man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 27, 2010 -> 04:26 PM) I'm guessing Saito will be a setup man. For what closer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 27, 2010 -> 03:30 PM) For what closer? Axford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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