chw42 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 31, 2010 -> 04:44 PM) I can't help but think about the possibility of having signed Beltre instead of Konerko, and then Lee instead of Crain. For a few million more dollars this year (obviously we would have more committed down the road), I feel like we could be a lot better. I doubt Jerry would have ponied up the money for Beltre. Plus, Boras is his agent. Edited December 31, 2010 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 31, 2010 -> 05:31 PM) I doubt Jerry would have ponied up the money for Beltre. Plus, Boras is his agent. Yeah. I still can't believe they did it for Dunn. The day we sign two major free agents in one offseason is the day Juan Pierre becomes a better baseball player than Carlos Gonzalez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 31, 2010 -> 05:31 PM) I doubt Jerry would have ponied up the money for Beltre. Plus, Boras is his agent. Well, I think the Boras angle is overplayed at this point, and it is hard to say he wouldn't have ponied up the money considering all they have committed to recently, but yeah, it's definitely a bit of a pipe dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 31, 2010 -> 05:35 PM) Yeah. I still can't believe they did it for Dunn. The day we sign two major free agents in one offseason is the day Juan Pierre becomes a better baseball player than Carlos Gonzalez. The White Sox have given out the 4th and 7th biggest contracts this offseason. I would say that qualifies as 2 major free agent signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 31, 2010 -> 06:43 PM) The White Sox have given out the 4th and 7th biggest contracts this offseason. I would say that qualifies as 2 major free agent signings. Well considering I have both CarGo and Juan on my fantasy team, I should be in really good shape this year then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Heyman reporting Rangers and Beltre are talking, but there's a 96m number coming out of the Dominican that he says is not true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Alfredo Simon is wanted for murder. http://deadspin.com/5722871/baltimore-orio...nted-for-murder At one point last year, he actually did a decent job as closer for the O's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Rangers closing in on Beltre with 5 year deal. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/01/rang...-to-beltre.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I wonder if KW goes after Michael Young if the Rangers sign Beltre, I know it's crazy, but he has been one of his targets before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 QUOTE (Springfield SoxFan @ Jan 2, 2011 -> 07:16 PM) I wonder if KW goes after Michael Young if the Rangers sign Beltre, I know it's crazy, but he has been one of his targets before. That contract would probably keep that from happening. Young is due $16 mil per year until 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 2, 2011 -> 08:02 PM) Rangers closing in on Beltre with 5 year deal. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/01/rang...-to-beltre.html The number there is $85 mil/5 years. If that winds up being the final number, then on an annual basis, Beltre is more expensive than Crain + Dunn. On a total contract basis, Beltre would make almost as much as Konerko and Dunn combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 3, 2011 -> 07:38 AM) The number there is $85 mil/5 years. If that winds up being the final number, then on an annual basis, Beltre is more expensive than Crain + Dunn. On a total contract basis, Beltre would make almost as much as Konerko and Dunn combined. Beltre's probably at least a 5 WAR player if he plays in Texas and stays healthy. I'd say the contract is worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Buster/ESPN Deportes reporting Beltre deal is geting close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 3, 2011 -> 11:28 AM) Beltre's probably at least a 5 WAR player if he plays in Texas and stays healthy. I'd say the contract is worth it. Is he though? I actually like Beltre a lot and obviously his defense is always elite but he's been the definition of a contract year player with the bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 3, 2011 -> 11:24 AM) Is he though? I actually like Beltre a lot and obviously his defense is always elite but he's been the definition of a contract year player with the bat. His glove and his ability to stay healthy generate about 3.5 WAR to begin with. So if he's just good with the bat (like an .800+ OPS), he'll get pretty close to 5 WAR. That's only for the next couple of years though, Beltre's not getting any younger. Edited January 3, 2011 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 3, 2011 -> 12:27 PM) His glove and his ability to stay healthy generate about 3.5 WAR to begin with. So if he's just good with the bat (like an .800+ OPS), he'll get pretty close to 5 WAR. That's only for the next couple of years though, Beltre's not getting any younger. How much does it decrease his WAR if he still refuses to wear a cup:? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 3, 2011 -> 11:29 AM) How much does it decrease his WAR if he still refuses to wear a cup:? lol, just look at his 09 season (I think). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalls2598 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 31, 2010 -> 05:35 PM) Yeah. I still can't believe they did it for Dunn. The day we sign two major free agents in one offseason is the day Juan Pierre becomes a better baseball player than Carlos Gonzalez. looks like your boy is about to get paid, per Rotoworld: A Rockies source implied Monday that the club may be moving toward a long-term extension with outfielder Carlos Gonzalez. Reports out of Gonzalez's native country of Venezuela last week suggested that the dynamic outfielder could be traveling to the states Thursday to hammer out the deal. And the Denver Post's Troy Renck was told Monday to "stay on top of this." It's going to take quite a commitment to lock CarGo up, but he appears headed for stardom and Colorado may save themselves money in the long run. Renck believes that the Rockies have offered something in the range of a seven-year, $80 million contract. Jan. 3 - 1:48 pm et Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (smalls2598 @ Jan 3, 2011 -> 01:42 PM) looks like your boy is about to get paid, per Rotoworld: A Rockies source implied Monday that the club may be moving toward a long-term extension with outfielder Carlos Gonzalez. Reports out of Gonzalez's native country of Venezuela last week suggested that the dynamic outfielder could be traveling to the states Thursday to hammer out the deal. And the Denver Post's Troy Renck was told Monday to "stay on top of this." It's going to take quite a commitment to lock CarGo up, but he appears headed for stardom and Colorado may save themselves money in the long run. Renck believes that the Rockies have offered something in the range of a seven-year, $80 million contract. Jan. 3 - 1:48 pm et In Tulo and now Cargo, the Rockies are setting themselves up to run the NL west [and NL in general for that matter]. Now all they have to do is get Ubaldo and it's on. Forgot they had inked De La Rosa, who has a chance to be a stud, through 2012 with a player option for '13. Edited January 4, 2011 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Well Heyman is saying if the deal gets done it actually will be closer to what the Dominican paper said and be worth 90-100m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Is CarGo only playing home games? I keed, I keed, J4L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 With no real competition for him, unless the Angels were there, why so much for so long for Beltre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 4, 2011 -> 04:22 PM) With no real competition for him, unless the Angels were there, why so much for so long for Beltre? Probably because Boras is his agent. Plus, he's really freaking good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 4, 2011 -> 04:23 PM) Probably because Boras is his agent. Plus, he's really freaking good when it's a contract year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 4, 2011 -> 04:22 PM) With no real competition for him, unless the Angels were there, why so much for so long for Beltre? Seems like Angels were involved, so mix them with Boras and his magical mystery team plus Beltre is good, the contract happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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