SoxFan562004 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 05:47 PM) Nothing wrong with that. Also can work with Sale in rotation. yeah, also with the Twins line-up it helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Gentlemen...I give you this: Moar: http://bosoxgifs.imgur.com/beltre_head_rubs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Awesome. Beltre must reeallllly not like getting touched on the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Saw that the Reds just signed Edgar Renteria. The question is simple: why? Dude is awful. He's been exactly a replacement level player for a while now. I know the Reds couldn't have been dumb enough to be fooled by his World Series performance? It's only 1 year and 3 million. But still. You probably get better production from Paul Janish for less than $500 K. Just a really stupid move for a front office that had been on a roll of late. I'm not saying this is a crippling move or anything. Just doesn't make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 8, 2011 -> 05:14 AM) Saw that the Reds just signed Edgar Renteria. The question is simple: why? Dude is awful. He's been exactly a replacement level player for a while now. I know the Reds couldn't have been dumb enough to be fooled by his World Series performance? It's only 1 year and 3 million. But still. You probably get better production from Paul Janish for less than $500 K. Just a really stupid move for a front office that had been on a roll of late. I'm not saying this is a crippling move or anything. Just doesn't make any sense. The guy knows what leadership is on winning teams. They brought him in to lead the young players. I know you disagree but there is something to be said about veteran leadership with a young team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 8, 2011 -> 07:59 AM) The guy knows what leadership is on winning teams. They brought him in to lead the young players. I know you disagree but there is something to be said about veteran leadership with a young team. Like OC did for them last year...? They overpaid for leadership if you ask me. The Giants only offered Renteria $1 million. Edited January 8, 2011 by chw42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 8, 2011 -> 07:59 AM) The guy knows what leadership is on winning teams. They brought him in to lead the young players. I know you disagree but there is something to be said about veteran leadership with a young team. I think there's something to be said about leadership. But that doesn't overcome being a bad baseball player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 8, 2011 -> 05:14 AM) Saw that the Reds just signed Edgar Renteria. The question is simple: why? Dude is awful. He's been exactly a replacement level player for a while now. I know the Reds couldn't have been dumb enough to be fooled by his World Series performance? It's only 1 year and 3 million. But still. You probably get better production from Paul Janish for less than $500 K. Just a really stupid move for a front office that had been on a roll of late. I'm not saying this is a crippling move or anything. Just doesn't make any sense. The problem with the move is Dusty Baker. He loves to play his veterans day in and day out, as we saw on the North Side. Having a vet like Renteria on the bench as a backup is solid, but I guarantee Dusty plays him way too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 8, 2011 -> 07:59 AM) The guy knows what leadership is on winning teams. They brought him in to lead the young players. I know you disagree but there is something to be said about veteran leadership with a young team. It is going to be kind of funny if Renteria helps the Reds to a World Series birth or title when Orlando Cabrera couldn't do it. Those two hate each other. QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 8, 2011 -> 06:21 PM) The problem with the move is Dusty Baker. He loves to play his veterans day in and day out, as we saw on the North Side. Having a vet like Renteria on the bench as a backup is solid, but I guarantee Dusty plays him way too much. I'm sure he will, but he already stated that Janish and Renteria are going to pretty much split time. One of them could get hurt too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) I saw a headline somewhere about LAA as a possible Pujols landing spot next year. I haven't been keeping up with STL's financial situation, but last I remember a ) Pujols will get a lot of money from someone and if is from STL, it will tie them up financially. b ) Pujols wants to win, which could be tricky to pull off if that much of your money is accounted for already. No doubt, signing Crawford this offseason would have all but made LAA unrealistic for Pujols should he reach FA. From a baseball standpoint* I'd rather have a one-armed half blind Pujols than Crawford for the money Boston gave him. I was thrilled the Sox weren't actively pursuing him. Could the Angels have half-heartedly been in the Crawford race just to drive up the price for everyone else (by that I mean if you get him, fine, if someone is bent on out-bidding you, no problem)? I know it was pretty much accepted everywhere that they wanted Crawford but could this be an "in the grand scheme of things" scenario? If you lose out on him, no sweat, just throw the bank at Pujols next year, even overpay him. Surely LAA is better equipped to do that than than STL... It's a slow morning at work, I'm just throwing the idea out there. * It's a shame that MLB still doesn't have any sort of HGH testing to this point. Not sayin', just saying... Edited January 10, 2011 by Swingandalongonetoleft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Rangers reportedly going hard after Jim Thome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 03:15 PM) Rangers reportedly going hard after Jim Thome. That's a great fit for him. The RF upper deck is a pop up down there during the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 04:30 PM) That's a great fit for him. The RF upper deck is a pop up down there during the summer. You know...Vlad is a fit for the Twinkies too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 03:45 PM) You know...Vlad is a fit for the Twinkies too. I don't think they have the money after the Pavano signing. Vlad isn't getting less than what he got last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 06:19 PM) I don't think they have the money after the Pavano signing. Vlad isn't getting less than what he got last year. Are you sure? The Rangers already declined an option on him that would have been a small raise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 05:24 PM) Are you sure? The Rangers already declined an option on him that would have been a small raise. Probably because they wanted to sign Beltre. I'm also confident Thome won't make more than what Vlad made last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 05:29 PM) Probably because they wanted to sign Beltre. I'm also confident Thome won't make more than what Vlad made last year. The Rangers are going to score them some runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 05:49 PM) The Rangers are going to score them some runs. The possibility of a Young/Thome DH platoon looks real good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 06:49 PM) The Rangers are going to score them some runs. If Hamilton and Cruz stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 05:53 PM) If Hamilton and Cruz stay healthy. Yeah, and Kinsler. He's turning into Nick Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 05:55 PM) Yeah, and Kinsler. He's turning into Nick Johnson. They have the depth to make up for possible injuries. Young could slot in for Kinsler. David Murphy can play a corner OF spot. Edited January 10, 2011 by chw42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 05:56 PM) They have the depth to make up for possible injuries. Young could slot in for Kinsler. David Murphy can play a corner OF spot. Murphy did a damn good job last year when Hamilton went down late in the year. .920 & .944 OPS in August & September. I don't know if he can keep it up the whole season, but I don't think they really need him to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 03:45 PM) You know...Vlad is a fit for the Twinkies too. I'd rather see the Twins have Vlad than Thome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 9, 2011 -> 04:25 PM) I'm sure he will, but he already stated that Janish and Renteria are going to pretty much split time. One of them could get hurt too. I'll believe it when I see it!!! If he does stick to it though, then Renteria in that role is not the worst idea for the Reds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 07:43 PM) I'd rather see the Twins have Vlad than Thome. I'd rather have them go for Thome...he fits in their lineup worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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