Balta1701 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Pat Burrell back to the Giants on a 1 year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 01:26 PM) Pat Burrell back to the Giants on a 1 year deal. Only $1 million, but 0-13 with 11 ks in the WS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 (edited) Jason Varitek back with BoSox. Edited December 2, 2010 by justBLAZE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 02:21 PM) Jason Varitek back with BoSox. Isn't he 53 years old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 02:21 PM) Jason Varitek back with BoSox. One less possible landing spot for A.J. I honestly think there's a good chance he's back with us next year. If we can sign him to a reasonable one year deal I'd be extremely happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Heyman reporting that Angels & BoSox offered Mo Rivera 3 years, but he is close to signing 2 year, $30 mil deal with the Yanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 It seems like you could offer Mariano Rivera a 6 year deal at this point and your investment would be fine. He's just ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Russell Martin is a free agent. Â Also all the hand wringing last offseason was a bit premature as DJ Carrasco was NT again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce_Blixton Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Some pretty solid players getting non-tendered, I wouldn't mind seeing Lastings Milledge replace Andruw Jones as our 4th OF and try to sign Eugenio Velez to a minor league contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 JP Howell and George Sherrill too. Sherrill would be a minor league deal and Howell would be a nice weapon as a midseason addition, maybe earlier. It would be like a trade. We need some lefties to bring to camp aside from Leesman because if Sale closes and Thornton sets up we still need a specialist. Maybe Sale is in the rotation though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 11:31 PM) JP Howell and George Sherrill too. Sherrill would be a minor league deal and Howell would be a nice weapon as a midseason addition, maybe earlier. It would be like a trade. We need some lefties to bring to camp aside from Leesman because if Sale closes and Thornton sets up we still need a specialist. Maybe Sale is in the rotation though. I trust KW and Coop to make some questionable pen arms into good MLB arms. Obviously not a 100% success rate, but they've had success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Josh Fields is available, non-tendered by the Royals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty22hotty Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (Bruce_Blixton @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 11:22 PM) Some pretty solid players getting non-tendered, I wouldn't mind seeing Lastings Milledge replace Andruw Jones as our 4th OF and try to sign Eugenio Velez to a minor league contract. Why not Tony Gwynn Jr., instead? (if healthy) An elite defending CF with a 1.7 WAR in '10 (2.4 in '09) Looks like a great 8/9th place hitter when guys in the OF need rest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce_Blixton Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (scotty22hotty @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 09:43 PM) Why not Tony Gwynn Jr., instead? (if healthy) An elite defending CF with a 1.7 WAR in '10 (2.4 in '09) Looks like a great 8/9th place hitter when guys in the OF need rest... Â I like the fact that Milledge can play all OF positions and has the potential for some pop as well. Tony Gwynn Jr. is a great defender but he's too similar to Pierre. If/when CQ goes down in 2011 Milledge could bat closer to the middle of the order whereas with Gwynn you'd be left with Pierre and Pierre 2.0 taking up two spots in the lineup. Â To be honest, either one of them wouldn't be a choice along with several other players. I was worried we might miss Andruw next year, now...not so worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Reds re-sign Bronson Arroyo, 3 years, $35 million. (Rosenthal's twitter) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Almost 12 mil per? Â No way that he's worth that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 03:58 PM) Reds re-sign Bronson Arroyo, 3 years, $35 million. (Rosenthal's twitter) Ok, that's crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 04:00 PM) Ok, that's crazy. The Reds were operating from a position of strength too. That's just a ridiculious deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 03:00 PM) Ok, that's crazy. yeah, wow! I know KW said they won't trade anyone, but if need be I imagine could get a haul for one of the SPs with how the market looks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 04:01 PM) yeah, wow! I know KW said they won't trade anyone, but if need be I imagine could get a haul for one of the SPs with how the market looks The Reds need to pick one of their starting pitchers and move him for a position player or bullpen help now. They flat out have too many starting pitchers.  Arroyo Volquez Cueto Bailey Mike Leake Travis Wood Aroldis Chapman  I think I'm still missing one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 02:58 PM) Reds re-sign Bronson Arroyo, 3 years, $35 million. (Rosenthal's twitter) Â In 2009, they signed him to a 3 yr., $34 mil contract, so this deal just adds on two more years. He has been a guarantee for 200+ innings, ERA of around 4.00 the last several years. Still seems a bit high, but his last two seasons he was at 3.84 & 3.88 with at least 15 wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 04:14 PM) In 2009, they signed him to a 3 yr., $34 mil contract, so this deal just adds on two more years. He has been a guarantee for 200+ innings, ERA of around 4.00 the last several years. Still seems a bit high, but his last two seasons he was at 3.84 & 3.88 with at least 15 wins. But that's an NL ERA of 4, not an AL one. And perhaps more importantly, they didn't need to extend him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 03:30 PM) But that's an NL ERA of 4, not an AL one. And perhaps more importantly, they didn't need to extend him  Good point. When I first saw the signing, I didn't realize it was an extension. That is weird, especially with all of the young pitching talent they have. Maybe they like the effect he has on the youngsters and think he stabilizes the rotation? I don't know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 I think it is a mistake for the Reds to extend him. They didn't need to at this point in time as they have young pitching that's ready to pitch and probably will be better than him. As a Reds fan, I know he's seen as one of their clubhouse leaders and the anchor to the pitching staff, but at the same time, he's just not that good, especially 12 mil per good. Â I hope Jocketty(who's a smart GM) has a plan to trade some pitching for more hitting because I think the Reds will have a hard time repeating without upgrades around Votto. And some of their guys aren't getting any younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 The Reds dumped Harang, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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