Quin Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 QUOTE (Pale Sox @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 01:10 AM) Totally.....and it's weird because when you look back at his baseball america descriptions, he's a "plus" defender. They even say he's capable of CF!! This is from December, 2005: Imagine him in CF.....lol I also don't see him going oppo too much unless he's late on a pitch. He has a pure-pull approach. Maybe he's a product of some Greg Walker coaching... I think he was one of the better defensive OF's in college and he was still pretty good until his D'back injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 It's still weird hearing about him going opposite field regularly. Usually, that implies a good plate approach. He's patient, but in my mind Quentin is basically a mistake hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 QUOTE (Pale Sox @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 02:40 AM) It's still weird hearing about him going opposite field regularly. Usually, that implies a good plate approach. He's patient, but in my mind Quentin is basically a mistake hitter. In 2008, he seemed to hit it everywhere, same with Beckham in 2009. I'm not saying Walker is preaching it, but he isn't helping these guys avoid getting into that mentality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Quentin's degrading fielding skills are definitely the results of injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 02:45 AM) In 2008, he seemed to hit it everywhere, same with Beckham in 2009. I'm not saying Walker is preaching it, but he isn't helping these guys avoid getting into that mentality. If there's one thing about the White Sox offense that I could target for improvement over the years, it would be SITUATIONAL HITTING. You think Ozzie would agree, but he continues to have a hard-on for Walker. Walker is the perfect hitting coach for Rob Deer. But we don't need that. We need a hitting coach that preaches situational hitting. Clutch hitting IS situational hitting. This is what we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 QUOTE (Pale Sox @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 03:02 AM) If there's one thing about the White Sox offense that I could target for improvement over the years, it would be SITUATIONAL HITTING. You think Ozzie would agree, but he continues to have a hard-on for Walker. Walker is the perfect hitting coach for Rob Deer. But we don't need that. We need a hitting coach that preaches situational hitting. Clutch hitting IS situational hitting. This is what we need. The Sox were one of the best situational hitting teams in the AL last year. #2 in BA with RISP, #3 with Scoring Position and 2 outs, and OPS numbers that ranked them similar to where their batting average did. Greg Walker appreciates your praise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 07:39 AM) The Sox were one of the best situational hitting teams in the AL last year. #2 in BA with RISP, #3 with Scoring Position and 2 outs, and OPS numbers that ranked them similar to where their batting average did. Greg Walker appreciates your praise. But don't you remember that time we couldn't score a guy from 3rd with 1 out????? Fire Walker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamtheHBOMB Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 01:58 AM) Quentin's degrading fielding skills are definitely the results of injuries. After watching him last year, I came to the conclusion that he doesn't have the best instincts. He would get bad reads pretty often and get caught in between on liners into RF. His bad defense can be attributed to more than just physical problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Nats said to be out of Lee now and focusing on other pitching according to Heyman... My guess would be one of the other suitors stepped up with an extra year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 QUOTE (IamtheHBOMB @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 10:28 AM) After watching him last year, I came to the conclusion that he doesn't have the best instincts. He would get bad reads pretty often and get caught in between on liners into RF. His bad defense can be attributed to more than just physical problems. But how do you "lose" instincts? He was rated well on defense all through his career and a fly ball in AA is a fly ball in the MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I read a forum rumor that the Yanks are going to offer Wood 30 mil for 2 years...uhh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 QUOTE (IamtheHBOMB @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 10:28 AM) After watching him last year, I came to the conclusion that he doesn't have the best instincts. He would get bad reads pretty often and get caught in between on liners into RF. His bad defense can be attributed to more than just physical problems. I came to the conclusion he sucked when he was in LF and didn't even know where to throw the baseball upon receiving it. He has an arm and the mentality of a football player on defense - but that's really it from what I can see. He's awesome as a LF killing the ball, but as a slumpy, offensive rollercoaster windmilling his way to the baseball in RF he's atrocious. The only problem is that it's hard to trade a guy who could win you an MVP if he stays healthy and confident for even 2/3 of a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 11:12 AM) I read a forum rumor that the Yanks are going to offer Wood 30 mil for 2 years...uhh. Impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 02:14 PM) Impossible. Yeah, that's what they signed Rivera for. That forum is getting its relievers crossed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 12:53 PM) But how do you "lose" instincts? He was rated well on defense all through his career and a fly ball in AA is a fly ball in the MLB. I'm convinced the flaw is in there somewhere. All last offseason I argued how s***ty he'd be in RF and I kept getting this metric stuff thrown at me saying he'd be good in RF and was only bad in LF because of blah blah blah. I have no idea why he was rated well, but it appears that he's not much of a defensive player. He just isn't. He's got that "oh s***" look on his face too much to be a good defensive player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 via Heyman, Lee has 2 seven year offers, said NYY and Rangers weren't expecting to go beyond 6, so might be 2 mystery teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamtheHBOMB Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 12:53 PM) But how do you "lose" instincts? He was rated well on defense all through his career and a fly ball in AA is a fly ball in the MLB. Assessments of his defensive abilities in college and in the minors really don't mean jack s*** at this point. Quentin misjudges flyballs and liners fairly often. That has nothing to do with shoulder, wrist or foot problems. It has to do with positioning and reading the ball off the bat. I don't know what his problem is. He should be at least an adequate defender. Maybe getting moved between RF and LF messed with his head? QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 01:19 PM) He's got that "oh s***" look on his face too much to be a good defensive player. I saw this exact thing a bunch of times - especially when he was coming in on balls into shallow RF. Edited December 8, 2010 by IamtheHBOMB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 DJ Carrasco signed for 2 years with the Mets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 (edited) Dodgers sign Tony Gwynn Jr. for $700K. I would've loved him as the 4th OF at 1-2 starts a week. He plays a pretty spectacular CF. Edited December 8, 2010 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Dayton Moore finally gets his guy - Jeff Francouer. My god, it's hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 8, 2010 Author Share Posted December 8, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 05:05 PM) Dayton Moore finally gets his guy - Jeff Francouer. My god, it's hilarious. I hope he signs him to a contract extension halfway through his 1 WAR campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 05:27 PM) via Heyman, Lee has 2 seven year offers, said NYY and Rangers weren't expecting to go beyond 6, so might be 2 mystery teams Cliff Lee is a stud, but damn, that's a long contract to sign for a pitcher that's 32. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 05:10 PM) I hope he signs him to a contract extension halfway through his 1 WAR campaign. His reasoning - Jeff has hit for a very high .280 average and he has 15 home runs. What he might have missed is that his OBP would be around .310 and his SLG might be .400. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 (edited) Rays trade Bartlett to Padres for Adam Russell and Cesar Ramos. Who is their SS? Beckham? Brignac? Edited December 8, 2010 by JoeCoolMan24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 8, 2010 Author Share Posted December 8, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 05:33 PM) Rays trade Bartlett to Padres. Who is their SS? Beckham? Brignac? Tim Beckham hit .256/.346/.359/.705 in High-A ball last year. I have a feeling it's not him. It's going to be Brignac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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