Leonard Washington Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 QUOTE (pktmotion @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 11:01 PM) Wow Billy Beane is absolutely enamored with OBP. Between DeJesus/Barton/Willingham they should have an overall OBP pushing 400! OBP is great, but when you're relying on Matsui as your main power source. I'm afraid all that hard work has gone to waste. If they only had a legit slugging threat... Regardless Im always happy to see Oakland do well, their teams/players are always fun to watch. I find the last comment surprising. They've been more athletic recently, but the traditional type of team usually associated with Oakland (under Beane) is probably the most boring team to watch I could imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pktmotion Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 QUOTE (Pale Sox @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 10:27 PM) I find the last comment surprising. They've been more athletic recently, but the traditional type of team usually associated with Oakland (under Beane) is probably the most boring team to watch I could imagine. Yea, sometimes they can be a bit brutal. But I enjoy watching the Athletics. I think my affinity for Oakland stems from parallels I see with the White Sox. Both teams play a second fiddle to a a more "popular" crosstown team (Giants, Cubs) Both teams I feel employ a sort of blue collar work ethic, which is reflective in their overall brand and advertisements. I also feel Beane and KW share similar GM philosophies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 QUOTE (pktmotion @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 10:01 PM) Wow Billy Beane is absolutely enamored with OBP. Between DeJesus/Barton/Willingham they should have an overall OBP pushing 400! OBP is great, but when you're relying on Matsui as your main power source. I'm afraid all that hard work has gone to waste. If they only had a legit slugging threat... Regardless Im always happy to see Oakland do well, their teams/players are always fun to watch. They probably shouldn't rely on that much power, especially since they play in one of the best pitcher's parks in baseball. I do like their lineup though. DeJesus LF Crisp CF Barton 1B Willingham RF Matsui DH Suzuki C Kouzmanoff 3B Ellis 2B Pennington SS There's a lot of OBP in that lineup and you'll get decent power from Willingham, Matsui, and Kouzmanoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 02:33 AM) They probably shouldn't rely on that much power, especially since they play in one of the best pitcher's parks in baseball. I do like their lineup though. DeJesus LF Crisp CF Barton 1B Willingham RF Matsui DH Suzuki C Kouzmanoff 3B Ellis 2B Pennington SS There's a lot of OBP in that lineup and you'll get decent power from Willingham, Matsui, and Kouzmanoff. Not a fan of 6-9. I think their pitching will make up for it. But the OBP on top is nice. Still, I think they could do with a thumper somewhere in there. Dunn would have looked nice instead of Matsui. Too bad for them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (pktmotion @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 10:01 PM) Wow Billy Beane is absolutely enamored with OBP. Between DeJesus/Barton/Willingham they should have an overall OBP pushing 400! OBP is great, but when you're relying on Matsui as your main power source. I'm afraid all that hard work has gone to waste. If they only had a legit slugging threat... Regardless Im always happy to see Oakland do well, their teams/players are always fun to watch. They've still got two of the game's best power prospects in Chris Carter and Michael Taylor, though the latter did struggle last year after murdering the minors in 2009. And the Grant Green kid is arguably the top SS prospect in baseball right now. I like what the A's are doing right now. Though Beane should never, ever be forgiven for trading away the man in my avatar. I see Willingham is a FA after next year. Deal is even better for the A's, as they most likely net two draft picks if they can't resign him. Edited December 17, 2010 by Jordan4life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Yankees sign Pedro Feliciano. http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5929488 Two years, 8 million with an option for a third year is what's being reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 11:24 AM) Yankees sign Pedro Feliciano. http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5929488 Two years, 8 million with an option for a third year is what's being reported. He's who I was hoping we were looking at for that other lefty spot out of the pen. Pretty pricey deal though for a loogy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 11:24 AM) Yankees sign Pedro Feliciano. http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5929488 Two years, 8 million with an option for a third year is what's being reported. Pedro Feliciano and Russell Martin = the 2010-2011 offseason haul of the New York Yankees. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Eric Patterson, he of the career slash-line of .224/299/.353, was the PTBNL is the Gonzalez deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 17, 2010 Author Share Posted December 17, 2010 San Diego really likes acquiring the younger brother of a s***ty player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 11:24 AM) Yankees sign Pedro Feliciano. http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5929488 Two years, 8 million with an option for a third year is what's being reported. Pretty good deal for them. Feliciano's a good reliever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 01:41 PM) Eric Patterson, he of the career slash-line of .224/299/.353, was the PTBNL is the Gonzalez deal. Wow... Remember when Eric Patterson was on the Cubs? Speaking of San Diego, they did get O-Dawg, 2 years $11 million. What's funny is that he's being paid as much as A-Gon, so he's literally A-Gon's replacement on the payroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 02:00 PM) Pretty good deal for them. Feliciano's a good reliever. I like the third year option. 3-year guaranteed contracts have proven to be suicide. QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 02:02 PM) Wow... Remember when Eric Patterson was on the Cubs? Speaking of San Diego, they did get O-Dawg, 2 years $11 million. What's funny is that he's being paid as much as A-Gon, so he's literally A-Gon's replacement on the payroll. If I'm Hoyer I'd much rather have a no-name minor leaguer in A ball that might have a shot, even if it's a 5% shot, at becoming something. Patterson is horrible. Edited December 17, 2010 by Jordan4life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Did Byrdak sign yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 02:10 PM) Did Byrdak sign yet? No. I wouldn't mind if we got him though. Although if Ozzie plans to use him against right handers...I don't want him anywhere near the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 03:11 PM) No. I wouldn't mind if we got him though. Although if Ozzie plans to use him against right handers...I don't want him anywhere near the team. Just sign him and Freddy (hopefully for a discount), and call it an offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 02:43 PM) Just sign him and Freddy (hopefully for a discount), and call it an offseason. Has anyone seen anything about Freddy so far? I am curious where his price is after last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 02:52 PM) Has anyone seen anything about Freddy so far? I am curious where his price is after last year. That's a good question. I haven't heard a thing about Freddy Garcia. It's like Joyce Dewitt post Threes Company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Freddy's good for our current situation. He won't come very expensive and we probably won't need him for more than 2 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 02:52 PM) Has anyone seen anything about Freddy so far? I am curious where his price is after last year. Supposedly the Yankees are interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 03:02 PM) Supposedly the Yankees are interested. Any idea what kind of terms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 03:06 PM) Any idea what kind of terms? Yankee terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 02:56 PM) That's a good question. I haven't heard a thing about Freddy Garcia. It's like Joyce Dewitt post Threes Company. he's a veteran pitcher, likely he and his agent are in no rush to get him signed... he won't get crazy money, but the longer he waits, even it's on the eve or first week or two of ST, he'll have more interested teams likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 04:16 PM) he's a veteran pitcher, likely he and his agent are in no rush to get him signed... he won't get crazy money, but the longer he waits, even it's on the eve or first week or two of ST, he'll have more interested teams likely. That hasn't really worked the last couple of years. The longer the non-big name guys waited, the smaller their offers got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 04:19 PM) That hasn't really worked the last couple of years. The longer the non-big name guys waited, the smaller their offers got. hadn't really tracked that, surprised, guess you roll the dice if you wait because if a SP gets knicked the first week FG is a great short term replacement... wonder if teams are waiting to sign him to see how everything shakes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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