Milkman delivers Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 09:03 PM) I certainly don't miss Rowand and I don't even really hate the Cubs that much but there's something about seeing ARow in a Cubs uni that would irk me a bit. My stance on the Cubs has changed so dramatically in the last few years. I no longer hate them or fear their success. It's just become pathetic and I can't even take them seriously anymore. I still don't want to ever see them win it all (and it will be a long time from now if it even does happen), but I just pity them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 17, 2010 -> 11:12 PM) I really doubt Rowand was on PEDs. Although he did look kinda ripped. Especially for a guy of his size. Why do you doubt it? He was probably the one guy I was sure used them on the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 21, 2010 -> 10:50 AM) Why do you doubt it? He was probably the one guy I was sure used them on the Sox. Magglio would be my first, going by how big he got, the strange injuries, and Ozzie's statments when he left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 21, 2010 -> 02:55 PM) Magglio would be my first, going by how big he got, the strange injuries, and Ozzie's statments when he left. I'd say Scott Schoenweis is first on my list of people I'm sure used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 21, 2010 -> 02:09 PM) I'd say Scott Schoenweis is first on my list of people I'm sure used. I'm going with Jose Canseco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 21, 2010 Author Share Posted December 21, 2010 Rotoworld thinks Jenks is a relative bargain compared to the rest of the free agent deals handed out to relievers this offseason. Perhaps they don't have time to be objective when they are fellating all things Red Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 21, 2010 -> 03:55 PM) Rotoworld thinks Jenks is a relative bargain compared to the rest of the free agent deals handed out to relievers this offseason. Perhaps they don't have time to be objective when they are fellating all things Red Sox. Even in a good season WAR-wise in 2010, he was only worth about $6 million. And those numbers aren't even sustainable considering his FIP was that low because he didn't allow that many home runs. Yet, that was because his FB% was an incredibly low 20.8%. Bobby's probably going to have a better ERA next year, but his FIP isn't going to be under 3 again. Edited December 22, 2010 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 21, 2010 -> 01:55 PM) Magglio would be my first, going by how big he got, the strange injuries, and Ozzie's statments when he left. Magglio is another definite one. As a matter of fact they both started in the minors and brought it to the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 21, 2010 -> 02:55 PM) Magglio would be my first, going by how big he got, the strange injuries, and Ozzie's statments when he left. I should have clarified that I meant the 2005 team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Matt Lidstrom traded to Colorado. Does not sound like the Rockies gave up much. Would of been nice in our pen unless Houston is still made over that 05 fiasco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Rhodes signs with Texas. Wonder what that contract might look like. Texas has a pretty nice bullpen with O'Day, Olliver, Rhodes, and then Feliz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 23, 2010 -> 05:18 PM) Matt Lidstrom traded to Colorado. Does not sound like the Rockies gave up much. Would of been nice in our pen unless Houston is still made over that 05 fiasco. Wow, I've always like Lindstrom. He's got an electric arm, even if he's flawed. I wanna see what the Rockies gave up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 23, 2010 -> 05:25 PM) Rhodes signs with Texas. Wonder what that contract might look like. Texas has a pretty nice bullpen with O'Day, Olliver, Rhodes, and then Feliz. You forgot Ogando and Francisco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Darren Oliver and Arthur Rhodes in the same bullpen is just awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Kinda off-topic. But the drunk driver that killed Nick Adenhart and two other people got 51 years to life. Whoa! I had already made a pact with myself never to drink and drive again long before that incident. This just reaffirms that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 23, 2010 -> 05:32 PM) Kinda off-topic. But the drunk driver that killed Nick Adenhart and two other people got 51 years to life. Whoa! I had already made a pact with myself never to drink and drive again long before that incident. This just reaffirms that. And Stallworth got like a month in jail for something similar. Blows your mind sometimes how some of these athletes get away with things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 23, 2010 -> 06:29 PM) And Stallworth got like a month in jail for something similar. Blows your mind sometimes how some of these athletes get away with things. Wasn't the victim jaywalking? And it seems like the family just wanted to cash-in anyway. Pretty sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 23, 2010 -> 05:25 PM) Rhodes signs with Texas. Wonder what that contract might look like. Texas has a pretty nice bullpen with O'Day, Olliver, Rhodes, and then Feliz. I think the Rangers are talking about turning Feliz into a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 QUOTE (scenario @ Dec 23, 2010 -> 06:36 PM) I think the Rangers are talking about turning Feliz into a starter. Hence maybe why they traded for Lindstrom. I still believe Feliz has better stuff than Price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 23, 2010 -> 06:39 PM) Hence maybe why they traded for Lindstrom. I still believe Feliz has better stuff than Price. The Rockies acquired Lindstrom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Dec 23, 2010 -> 06:45 PM) The Rockies acquired Lindstrom. Oh f***. Brainfart. Been drinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 23, 2010 -> 04:34 PM) Wasn't the victim jaywalking? And it seems like the family just wanted to cash-in anyway. Pretty sad. Not sure how much of an impact it was, but the guy who hit Adenhart had past DUI's and was absolutely blitzed where IIRC, Stallworth was pretty much right at the legal limit. Not condoning what happened but they really were two entirely different situations to an extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 23, 2010 -> 06:56 PM) Not sure how much of an impact it was, but the guy who hit Adenhart had passed DUI's and was absolutely blitzed where IIRC, Stallworth was pretty much right at the legal limit. Not condoning what happened but they really were two entirely different situations to an extent. And he ran a red light crashing into a car killing 3 people, not just one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 23, 2010 -> 06:56 PM) Not sure how much of an impact it was, but the guy who hit Adenhart had passed DUI's and was absolutely blitzed where IIRC, Stallworth was pretty much right at the legal limit. Not condoning what happened but they really were two entirely different situations to an extent. Ok then. I really don't remember all the details. I just remember reading that him jaywalking was a big reason Stallworth got off. All I know is I ain't EVER drinking and driving again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 23, 2010 -> 07:05 PM) Ok then. I really don't remember all the details. I just remember reading that him jaywalking was a big reason Stallworth got off. All I know is I ain't EVER drinking and driving again. Right, I'm assuming it was at night and if someone is jaywalking its hard to see them even sober at times... for him to get similar treatment to the guy from the Adenhart case would be ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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