Heads22 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 One year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 1.75 mil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 An asset retained-good move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint it Black Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Fully support this decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 excellente! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Approve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Really good move, I was so skeptical of Omar being here this year and he made me look like a fool. Now let's hope he won't have to play as much, but will be a great backup IF and mentor to whatever 'productive' Sox thirdbaseman in 2011! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChrisSamsa Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 A Morel/Vizquel combination at 3B doesn't sound so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Hopefully it doesn't come to that. Hopefully Morel, Ramirez, and Beckham all play 145-155 games and Vizquel starts the rest. QUOTE (PlunketChris @ Nov 2, 2010 -> 02:20 PM) A Morel/Vizquel combination at 3B doesn't sound so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 161 more games of DH slots to fill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Sweet deal. Just don't overplay him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Does anyone else think this means Morel is a lock to be the starting 3B in 2011? I would think if we were considering a more expensive and proven option at 3B, then having Vizquel would be a bit of a luxury. I know $1.75 million isn't a lot of money, but we do have several big holes that need to be filled. At least this should mean no more Teahen at 3B. Unfortunately, I don't see how he fits into the equation now. The only value Teahen provides to the team is a solid bat against righties as backup at several positions, but I'm not sure how much usage he'll really get now. Hopefully we sign or trade for a left-handed power bat for 1B/DH/RF, so that's one position where his value as a backup is minimal. Also, if Quentin remains on the team, that's another spot where Teahen has limited value. At this point, it probably makes the most sense to eat half his contract and see if someone will bite or try swapping him for another over-priced player that fits some need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 2, 2010 -> 07:58 PM) Approve. I agree. Just hope he is a super sub. It's going to be easy for Ozzie to give up on somebody and play Omar every day, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 2, 2010 -> 02:44 PM) Does anyone else think this means Morel is a lock to be the starting 3B in 2011? I would think if we were considering a more expensive and proven option at 3B, then having Vizquel would be a bit of a luxury. I know $1.75 million isn't a lot of money, but we do have several big holes that need to be filled. At least this should mean no more Teahen at 3B. Unfortunately, I don't see how he fits into the equation now. The only value Teahen provides to the team is a solid bat against righties as backup at several positions, but I'm not sure how much usage he'll really get now. Hopefully we sign or trade for a left-handed power bat for 1B/DH/RF, so that's one position where his value as a backup is minimal. Also, if Quentin remains on the team, that's another spot where Teahen has limited value. At this point, it probably makes the most sense to eat half his contract and see if someone will bite or try swapping him for another over-priced player that fits some need. Yeah, I think Morel was a lock going into this offseason. He's got nothing else to prove in the minors. They know they blew it giving Teahen a 3-yr contract last year. He'll be an overpaid bench player, and really he might not be that bad in that role. He can play all over the field and can hit a little bit. Edited November 2, 2010 by flavum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 2, 2010 -> 02:44 PM) Does anyone else think this means Morel is a lock to be the starting 3B in 2011? I would think if we were considering a more expensive and proven option at 3B, then having Vizquel would be a bit of a luxury. I know $1.75 million isn't a lot of money, but we do have several big holes that need to be filled. At least this should mean no more Teahen at 3B. Unfortunately, I don't see how he fits into the equation now. The only value Teahen provides to the team is a solid bat against righties as backup at several positions, but I'm not sure how much usage he'll really get now. Hopefully we sign or trade for a left-handed power bat for 1B/DH/RF, so that's one position where his value as a backup is minimal. Also, if Quentin remains on the team, that's another spot where Teahen has limited value. At this point, it probably makes the most sense to eat half his contract and see if someone will bite or try swapping him for another over-priced player that fits some need. Regardless of who plays 3B, for $1.75M you get a guy who plays plus defense at all three skill infield positions for your bench, and at the same time, you get an infield coach for younger players. That's a pretty good deal, really. The only relationship I can see with Morel is that if they have him, and/or Viciedo, playing the field at 3B and/or 1B, that's so much more the reason to have Omar around to coach them a bit. Think about this: if your infield is Morel-Ramirez-Beckham-Viciedo, then you've got 3 guys who can learn a ton from Omar and a 4th who already has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 As long as he's a defensive replacement like he was coming into 2010, sure, why not. Although nearly $2 million seems a bit much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 2, 2010 -> 03:03 PM) As long as he's a defensive replacement like he was coming into 2010, sure, why not. Although nearly $2 million seems a bit much. He's really got two roles - UT infielder (and he's what I would consider "plus" at that role), plus infield coach. Hell, I think his influence on Alexei alone was worth half his contract from last year or more. Guys like Morel and Beckham and maybe Viciedo could learn a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Not a fan of it only because Ozzie will probably give him as many if not more at-bats this season. I think the year he had with us with the bat was more luck than anything. As long as his at-bats decrease (barring injury, or letting the kid Morel play) he's a fine glove off the bench. Morel is already a stud with the glove, so it's not like he's gonna help him much there. Hopefully Beckham can take the next step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Nov 2, 2010 -> 03:06 PM) Not a fan of it only because Ozzie will probably give him as many if not more at-bats this season. I think the year he had with us with the bat was more luck than anything. As long as his at-bats decrease (barring injury, or letting the kid Morel play) he's a fine glove off the bench. Morel is already a stud with the glove, so it's not like he's gonna help him much there. Hopefully Beckham can take the next step. Yeah, Omar's not hitting around .300 again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 2, 2010 -> 09:04 PM) He's really got two roles - UT infielder (and he's what I would consider "plus" at that role), plus infield coach. Hell, I think his influence on Alexei alone was worth half his contract from last year or more. Guys like Morel and Beckham and maybe Viciedo could learn a lot. It'd be kind of cool to give him a title player/coach but that's not going to happen obviously. Scares me a little that Ozzie will be tempted to play him A LOT if Morel gets off to a slow start with the bat. It's not that Omar isn't OK, but it'll be the same where collectively our lineup could be weak in nature with too many Omars in it on an everyday basis. Losing AJ and Paulie on paper we have slots to fill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Nov 2, 2010 -> 03:06 PM) Not a fan of it only because Ozzie will probably give him as many if not more at-bats this season. I think the year he had with us with the bat was more luck than anything. As long as his at-bats decrease (barring injury, or letting the kid Morel play) he's a fine glove off the bench. Morel is already a stud with the glove, so it's not like he's gonna help him much there. Hopefully Beckham can take the next step. There is a big difference between a guy who appears to be a future stud based on minor league play, and a guy who is actually a defensive stud in the majors. You make it seem like its assured, but its really not. That's where Omar can be a help. I like Morel, but he's not a "stud with the glove" until he does it in the big leagues for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 2, 2010 -> 03:08 PM) There is a big difference between a guy who appears to be a future stud based on minor league play, and a guy who is actually a defensive stud in the majors. You make it seem like its assured, but its really not. That's where Omar can be a help. I like Morel, but he's not a "stud with the glove" until he does it in the big leagues for a while. No he really is. I've watched the kid since college. It's not like he's gonna lose it. It's like saying Zimmerman was a stud since SUU and all of a sudden he's gonna lose it at the big league level. The reports are there. Were not comparing bats to translate here. Edited November 2, 2010 by J.Reedfan8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
typewritermender Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 maybe he'll retire after next season and become our manager and we can send Ozzie to Miami for Hanley Ramirez and Josh Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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