ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jan 23, 2011 -> 11:13 PM) what do we have?? Pena and Harrell??? maybe Peavy is gonna be ready to go?? Humber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jan 24, 2011 -> 12:39 AM) Humber. Might as well include the entire AAA rotation if you're going to include Humber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 24, 2011 -> 04:16 AM) Might as well include the entire AAA rotation if you're going to include Humber. Something tells me that Humber will be better than any AAA starter we have right now. No one else posted a 4 K/BB last year. Not saying Humber is anything special, but I'd certainly give him just as much of a chance as Harrel, Marquez, or Hynick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 THE BACONATOR!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 23, 2011 -> 09:07 AM) According to Scott Gregor, Daily Herald White Sox beat writer, his inside sources say Chris Sale is a lock to be the White Sox closer in 2011. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jan 24, 2011 -> 03:25 AM) Something tells me that Humber will be better than any AAA starter we have right now. No one else posted a 4 K/BB last year. Not saying Humber is anything special, but I'd certainly give him just as much of a chance as Harrel, Marquez, or Hynick. Considering the state of our SP depth in the minors I'd say that wouldn't be too hard to accomplish. Edited January 24, 2011 by Jordan4life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 23, 2011 -> 09:07 AM) According to Scott Gregor, Daily Herald White Sox beat writer, his inside sources say Chris Sale is a lock to be the White Sox closer in 2011. Beautiful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 25, 2011 -> 12:35 AM) Beautiful! F*ck*n A! =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEANS Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Pretty Please!!!! http://mlbbuzz.yardbarker.com/blog/mlbbuzz...brewers/4032194 Brewers interested in Kotsay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 QUOTE (MEANS @ Jan 25, 2011 -> 12:09 PM) Pretty Please!!!! http://mlbbuzz.yardbarker.com/blog/mlbbuzz...brewers/4032194 Brewers interested in Kotsay. I thought it might be a good idea to keep Kotsay around. He'd make an excellent bat for Dunn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) Your 2011 White Sox numbers: 1- Pierre 3- Baines 8- Cox 10- Ramirez 11- Vizquel 12- Pierzynski 13- Guillen 14- Konerko 15- Beckham 17- Flowers 18- Lillibridge 20- Quentin 21- Cooper 22- Morel 23- Teahen 24- Viciedo 26- Crain 27- Castro 28- Cora 29- Walker 30- De Aza 31- Ohman 32- Dunn 33- Jackson 34- Floyd 36- Nieves 37- Thornton 38- Gartrell 40- Bruney 41- Humber 44- Peavy 45- McPherson 46- Santos 47- Infante 48- Marquez 49- Sale 50- Danks 51- Rios 52- Kinney 53- Dolsi 54- Nunez 55- Lucy 56- Buehrle 57- Pena 58- Harrell 59- Salas 60- Gray 61- Hynick 62- Escobar 63- Cofield 64- Carter 65- Jones 66- Lindsay 67- Danks 68- Socolovich 70- Bellamy 71- Leesman 74- Price 75- Phegley 76- Short Edited January 25, 2011 by flavum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Is Baines not coaching this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 QUOTE (knightni @ Jan 25, 2011 -> 03:02 PM) Is Baines not coaching this year? I'm wondering that too i see Ozzie, Cora, Coop, Cox and Salas (bullpen catcher) listed but no Harold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 25, 2011 -> 12:12 PM) I thought it might be a good idea to keep Kotsay around. He'd make an excellent bat for Dunn. I think you're being serious. lol. You mean as a occasional DH or starter at 1B, right? He's not a bad player if used correctly. Just like Mackowiak and Wise weren't bad players if used properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 25, 2011 -> 03:59 PM) I think you're being serious. lol. You mean as a occasional DH or starter at 1B, right? He's not a bad player if used correctly. Just like Mackowiak and Wise weren't bad players if used properly. He actually meant that Dunn would use Kotsay as his bat. He would pick Kotsay up and swing Kotsay at the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 25, 2011 -> 02:59 PM) I think you're being serious. lol. You mean as a occasional DH or starter at 1B, right? He's not a bad player if used correctly. Just like Mackowiak and Wise weren't bad players if used properly. false QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 25, 2011 -> 03:02 PM) He actually meant that Dunn would use Kotsay as his bat. He would pick Kotsay up and swing Kotsay at the ball. yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 25, 2011 -> 03:05 PM) false yup Balta is smarter than I. I didn't think you meant it like that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 And for what it's worth, Mark Kotsay has zero use to an American League team right now. Kotsay would be possibly useful if he could cover more than 1 position defensively. Even though he'd have an inadequate bat, he could be roster filler. With a DH slot and a 12 man bullpen, you have 4 bench players, at least 1 of whom needs to be a backup catcher. That means you have 3 backups to cover 7 spots. You pretty much need your other 3 backups to be utility guys able to cover more than 1 position. Even if they're not good at it, you need them to handle it in a pinch. If you carry a guy who is strictly a backup 1b, that means you have 1 backup OF and 1 backup IF. You might get a little bit better if you have guys you can shuffle around, or a DH who can also play the field, but a strict backup 1b who provides no value with the bat is a luxury that no AL team can afford. If his bat is good enough to get into the lineup on his own, even part of the time, ok, because you can shuffle him in and out of spots. If he can play several positions, even poorly, ok, because at least he's an extra backup OF if someone gets hurt. Kotsay was doing neither of those last year. He does not have any place on an American League roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 25, 2011 -> 03:08 PM) And for what it's worth, Mark Kotsay has zero use to an American League team right now. Kotsay would be possibly useful if he could cover more than 1 position defensively. Even though he'd have an inadequate bat, he could be roster filler. With a DH slot and a 12 man bullpen, you have 4 bench players, at least 1 of whom needs to be a backup catcher. That means you have 3 backups to cover 7 spots. You pretty much need your other 3 backups to be utility guys able to cover more than 1 position. Even if they're not good at it, you need them to handle it in a pinch. If you carry a guy who is strictly a backup 1b, that means you have 1 backup OF and 1 backup IF. You might get a little bit better if you have guys you can shuffle around, or a DH who can also play the field, but a strict backup 1b who provides no value with the bat is a luxury that no AL team can afford. If his bat is good enough to get into the lineup on his own, even part of the time, ok, because you can shuffle him in and out of spots. If he can play several positions, even poorly, ok, because at least he's an extra backup OF if someone gets hurt. Kotsay was doing neither of those last year. He does not have any place on an American League roster. Ross Gload has filled a similar roll nicely for years now, being a backup 1B, occasional corner OF, PH and PR. But he's been in the NL, he can actually still run, and he's younger than Kotsay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 25, 2011 -> 04:23 PM) Ross Gload has filled a similar roll nicely for years now, being a backup 1B, occasional corner OF, PH and PR. But he's been in the NL, he can actually still run, and he's younger than Kotsay. In the NL, it's a little different. Since you don't have a DH...you effectively have an extra bench slot. If you choose to use that on a guy who can play 1 position, you can still have yourself 2 deep at SS/CF and not be in real trouble if 2 guys happen to be hurt/ejected in the same game. Plus, being able to be a decent pinch hitter is a skill that seems for some people to be fully divorced from being an everyday player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Fixed. QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jan 25, 2011 -> 02:31 PM) I'm wondering that too i see Ozzie, Cora, Coop, Cox and Salas (bullpen catcher) listed but no Harold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 25, 2011 -> 12:13 PM) Your 2011 White Sox numbers: 1- Pierre 3- Baines 8- Cox 10- Ramirez 11- Vizquel 12- Pierzynski 13- Guillen 14- Konerko 15- Beckham 17- Flowers 18- Lillibridge 20- Quentin 21- Cooper 22- Morel 23- Teahen 24- Viciedo 26- Crain 27- Castro 28- Cora 29- Walker 30- De Aza 31- Ohman 32- Dunn 33- Jackson 34- Floyd 36- Nieves 37- Thornton 38- Gartrell 40- Bruney 41- Humber 44- Peavy 45- McPherson 46- Santos 47- Infante 48- Marquez 49- Sale 50- Danks 51- Rios 52- Kinney 53- Dolsi 54- Nunez 55- Lucy 56- Buehrle 57- Pena 58- Harrell 59- Salas 60- Gray 61- Hynick 62- Escobar 63- Cofield 64- Carter 65- Jones 66- Lindsay 67- Danks 68- Socolovich 70- Bellamy 71- Leesman 74- Price 75- Phegley 76- Short No Charlie! Not the cursed number! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I'm more surprised that they didn't retire Linebrink's number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Socolovich and Nunez are having pretty good Winter Leagues. Some of the other guys that will be in big league camp...not so good. http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/org.jsp?id=cws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 White Sox ZiPS projections are out: http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/...cago_white_sox/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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