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Jermaine Dye wants back.


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QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Nov 12, 2010 -> 07:55 AM)
He could make sense pending couple of things of course. For example he needs to prove he can still play at the 2008/2009 (pre ASB), IF Paulie wasn't to come back signing Dye to play 1B/DH (for a minimal contract) coupled with the money saved can get us Dunn to share 1B/DH duties wouldn't be a bad idea.

The other thing that could work about a JD signing is that if JD struggles with the bats and he's on a small contract, you've bought yourself a couple months for Viciedo to work at 1b down in AAA. It's somewhat nice to have that backup plan there and to also have a guy who won't block him for too long if he's raking in Charlotte.

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QUOTE (The Critic @ Nov 12, 2010 -> 06:44 AM)
Did you ever have an ex-girlfriend who was smokin' hot and fun to be around, but something went wrong somewhere and it all fell apart? And you still think about her once in a while all these years later? Then one day, as a goof, you search for her on Facebook and there she is! You get excited and a little nervous to click on her profile, but of course you do, and when you search the photo albums...... :ph34r: :o :ph34r: :o :ph34r:

 

....I'd prefer to remember Jermaine when he was "smokin' hot" for the White Sox. I don't want to see his photo albums now.

 

No. You creep!

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Dye f***ed up and now wants a job but still wants to play outfield or 1st base where he's unproven. My guess is he'd be a bad 1st baseman with as much range as Paulie . DH is about it but he has to prove he can still hit but yet won't accept a minor league deal. Still delusional. Hope he's prepared to sit out another year.

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QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Nov 12, 2010 -> 07:16 AM)
We need to get away from the mid to late 30s fixer up pick up. A terrible defensive RF who is older doesn't magically become passible with sitting at home for a year. And as a 1st baseman, uh no.

 

 

Disagree with your assessment of Dye. We are looking at a DH here with a good bat. No different then a signing of Jim Thome. It's the position you fill to better the team.

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QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Nov 12, 2010 -> 11:01 AM)
Disagree with your assessment of Dye. We are looking at a DH here with a good bat. No different then a signing of Jim Thome. It's the position you fill to better the team.

 

It's a lot different considering Dye had been in a rapid decline every year since his amazing 2006 season. Add to that the guy hasn't played in over a year? And he'll be 37 in a couple months? No thanks.

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QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Nov 12, 2010 -> 11:01 AM)
Disagree with your assessment of Dye. We are looking at a DH here with a good bat. No different then a signing of Jim Thome. It's the position you fill to better the team.

 

I have yet to hear him say he's willing to be a full-time DH. I thought that was one of the reasons he didn't sign with anyone last year.

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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 12, 2010 -> 06:06 PM)
It's a lot different considering Dye had been in a rapid decline every year since his amazing 2006 season. Add to that the guy hasn't played in over a year? And he'll be 37 in a couple months? No thanks.

 

 

That's what some said about Thome also

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QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Nov 12, 2010 -> 10:43 PM)
I have yet to hear him say he's willing to be a full-time DH. I thought that was one of the reasons he didn't sign with anyone last year.

But, he might not have to be a full-time DH. If he can play a couple other positions he can always filin if needed. I love Jim Thome but I don't think Big Jim coulld do that anymore for you

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QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Nov 12, 2010 -> 04:18 PM)
That's what some said about Thome also

Thome was still putting up a mid .800 ops with us, Dye couldn't bring .800 in 09 and that's while being one of the worst regulars in baseball the 2nd half of that season. Not to mention he's been out of the game for a year now and it'd be a terrible pick up.

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QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Nov 12, 2010 -> 05:23 PM)
Thome was still putting up a mid .800 ops with us, Dye couldn't bring .800 in 09 and that's while being one of the worst regulars in baseball the 2nd half of that season. Not to mention he's been out of the game for a year now and it'd be a terrible pick up.

The question I still ask is...what in the world happened to JD the 2nd half of 09? He went from a .942 OPS in the first half to a .590 OPS in the 2nd half. Hitters aren't supposed to do that, especially veteran ones who know how to get themselves out of slumps and fix swing problems. Was he tired? Was he hurt? Was he just not caring somehow?

 

You can't tell me that the guy's skills had diminished in 2009 and that alone is what did it, because I can point to that .942 OPS. Something changed with him very, very rapidly right around the AS break. That's not the usual pattern for "This guy is old and wearing down", unless he just suddenly hit a point of exhaustion, which seems kinda weird. Even if you look at a guy who was wearing down, say like Vlad this year, he had a bad 2nd half, but still was rested enough to put up an .880 OPS in September.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 12, 2010 -> 05:54 PM)
You can't tell me that the guy's skills had diminished in 2009 and that alone is what did it, because I can point to that .942 OPS. Something changed with him very, very rapidly right around the AS break. That's not the usual pattern for "This guy is old and wearing down", unless he just suddenly hit a point of exhaustion, which seems kinda weird. Even if you look at a guy who was wearing down, say like Vlad this year, he had a bad 2nd half, but still was rested enough to put up an .880 OPS in September.

 

I think the "something" that changed was K. W. went out and got Alex Rios for the stretch run and J. D. pouted about maybe losing playing time. I know that Dye was slumping prior to the acquisition, but then he started complaining about how his playing time might get cut instead of figuring out how to help his team out by....oh...I don't know....maybe hitting a baseball once in a while. In actuality, Dyes playing time should of been cut drastically and it wasn't.

 

I love J.D. for what he did in his Sox career, especially 2005; but he seems like way too much of a "me first" guy rather than his concerns over the team.

 

JMHO

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QUOTE (balfanman @ Nov 12, 2010 -> 05:17 PM)
I think the "something" that changed was K. W. went out and got Alex Rios for the stretch run and J. D. pouted about maybe losing playing time. I know that Dye was slumping prior to the acquisition, but then he started complaining about how his playing time might get cut instead of figuring out how to help his team out by....oh...I don't know....maybe hitting a baseball once in a while. In actuality, Dyes playing time should of been cut drastically and it wasn't.

 

I love J.D. for what he did in his Sox career, especially 2005; but he seems like way too much of a "me first" guy rather than his concerns over the team.

 

JMHO

 

He did the exact same thing before his last contract extension when he went into a massive slump when there were trade rumors about him to Boston.

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QUOTE (balfanman @ Nov 12, 2010 -> 06:17 PM)
I think the "something" that changed was K. W. went out and got Alex Rios for the stretch run and J. D. pouted about maybe losing playing time. I know that Dye was slumping prior to the acquisition, but then he started complaining about how his playing time might get cut instead of figuring out how to help his team out by....oh...I don't know....maybe hitting a baseball once in a while. In actuality, Dyes playing time should of been cut drastically and it wasn't.

 

I love J.D. for what he did in his Sox career, especially 2005; but he seems like way too much of a "me first" guy rather than his concerns over the team.

 

JMHO

I never, ever thought of him that way at any point. He'd have done anything the team asked him to. He was definitely whining and pouting in 2009 though and I remember everybody rubbing it the wrong way. It was like he felt somebody owed him something at that point.

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