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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 14, 2011 -> 02:54 PM)
There's zero case where you guys will accept the existence of any sort of corporate responsibility for anything. That's what I take from this case.

 

In this case I have no problem pointing the finger at the private company as well. The problem, of course, is that the private company is merely providing the product, not requiring people to us it.

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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 14, 2011 -> 04:00 PM)
In this case I have no problem pointing the finger at the private company as well. The problem, of course, is that the private company is merely providing the product, not requiring people to us it.

Following that logic, if the scanners were up to specs, then you'd have no problem requiring their use, right?

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 14, 2011 -> 03:04 PM)
Following that logic, if the scanners were up to specs, then you'd have no problem requiring their use, right?

 

Um, no. The logic is that the government shouldn't be requiring these things in the first place. Security theater has been my cry for a good long while now.

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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 14, 2011 -> 04:07 PM)
Um, no. The logic is that the government shouldn't be requiring these things in the first place. Security theater has been my cry for a good long while now.

That's a different argument and one we had earlier in this thread.

 

If the systems can't work properly, then I do have to switch sides on that part of the argument. But you don't get to bash the government for using things that are unsafe if the manufacturer and the initial tests said that they were safe. That's on the people who built the things.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 14, 2011 -> 03:10 PM)
That's a different argument and one we had earlier in this thread.

 

If the systems can't work properly, then I do have to switch sides on that part of the argument. But you don't get to bash the government for using things that are unsafe if the manufacturer and the initial tests said that they were safe. That's on the people who built the things.

 

The distinction IMO is that the government justified the use of the machine, in part, on their safety. I think the government (TSA specifically) opened itself up to criticism for doing that.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 06:50 PM)
TSA security looks at people who complain about TSA security as elevated terrorist risks.

 

Seems like a reasonable thing. If I were a terrorist, I'd be trying to get security less strict. I'd be working to discredit the government's actions and attempts at providing some security. I'd point on the superiority of the private sector firms, like Blackwater, at providing security services. Hmmm, maybe some of the people in this thread are really terrorists!

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This'll at least create an interesting situation, the state of Texas arresting TSA officials for the performance of their jobs.

The Texas House of Representatives late on Thursday approved a bill that would make invasive pat-downs at Texas airports a crime, after a former Miss USA said she felt "molested" at the Dallas/Fort Worth airport last month.

 

Transportation Security Administration agents could be charged with a misdemeanor crime, face a $4,000 fine and one year in jail under the measure.

 

The proposal would classify any airport inspection that "touches the anus, sexual organ, buttocks, or breast of another person including through the clothing, or touches the other person in a manner that would be offensive to a reasonable person" as an offense of sexual harassment under official oppression.

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