SoxFan562004 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:22 PM) That he won't be all that expensive and he's familiar with the city, as well as his relationship with KW and Ozzie. exactly, I don't think there's anything concrete, but it's logical. With D-Lee at 1b, Bacon at 2b, Alexi at SS and Morel possibly at 3rd, the Sox have a very impressive defensive IF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 This is exactly type of the move i need from this organization to get my confidence in the team back. Dunn would be an outstanding addition to the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Heyman is now saying they are closing in on Dunn and still negotiating with Konerko. Maybe JR has a few Little Ceasers franchises he hasn't mentioned before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:24 PM) This is exactly type of the move i need from this organization to get my confidence in the team back. Dunn would be an outstanding addition to the club. Not if it means no PK, its more of a lateral move to very slight upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 DO ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT. See I think Paulie would be willing to come back for a little less if we got Dunn because that means we have a chance to be more competitive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:25 PM) Heyman is now saying they are closing in on Dunn and still negotiating with Konerko. Maybe JR has a few Little Ceasers franchises he hasn't mentioned before. Heyman also said Sox made a $5M offer to Putz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:25 PM) Heyman is now saying they are closing in on Dunn and still negotiating with Konerko. Maybe JR has a few Little Ceasers franchises he hasn't mentioned before. lol, could be, maybe Wing Stop, but really, the Deadspin documents from a few months ago, even though none were the Sox, just furthered my belief that the Sox have money. Also they said the best thing to have in any sports team is the equity, then you try to break even or even lose a little, I have a hard time thinking of many franchises in MLB that would have the equity JR's group has in the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 I like the Dunn signing assuming it will happen. I just hope it means they don't have to dump pitching to afford him. Or settle for Tyler Flowers at catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:24 PM) This is exactly type of the move i need from this organization to get my confidence in the team back. Dunn would be an outstanding addition to the club. It would be the first major FA signing, with another team's FA, since Albert Belle. There were some decent names signed as free agents, Dye being one, but he was in the bargain bin. It would be the first time KW shelled out more than $20 million for another guy's FA ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:21 PM) Cowley: Yes, the Adam Dunn talk is very legit, and building steam. The internet must be working in his moms basement again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:26 PM) I like the Dunn signing assuming it will happen. I just hope it means they don't have to dump pitching to afford him. Or settle for Tyler Flowers at catcher. I would use the term "trade" pitching, because in this market with some of the arms the Sox could trade they should be able to get quality back for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:25 PM) Heyman is now saying they are closing in on Dunn and still negotiating with Konerko. Maybe JR has a few Little Ceasers franchises he hasn't mentioned before. I don't see how we can sign both at around $12 million for the next 2-3 years. We're not the Red Sox or Mets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Looking back at it, this shouldn't come as a shock after KW's desire to get Dunn last deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:27 PM) It would be the first major FA signing, with another team's FA, since Albert Belle. There were some decent names signed as free agents, Dye being one, but he was in the bargain bin. It would be the first time KW shelled out more than $20 million for another guy's FA ever. yeah, but some of the trades they made are roughly the same as FAs, the Freddy extension and the Peavy contract were big adds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:27 PM) It would be the first major FA signing, with another team's FA, since Albert Belle. There were some decent names signed as free agents, Dye being one, but he was in the bargain bin. It would be the first time KW shelled out more than $20 million for another guy's FA ever. Unless you actually go back and include moves like Rios, where they essentially signed him to a 5 years 60ish million dollar contract by getting him off of waivers, or the Peavy deal, where they not only assumed his contract, but gave up players to do it. Sure it sounds better when you make it sound bad, but the reality is that the Sox have brought in lots of big dollar guys, both from the inside and outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:28 PM) I don't see how we can sign both at around $12 million for the next 2-3 years. We're not the Red Sox or Mets. if they did it the payroll would be around what, 115m, that's still a far cry from those two teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 04:26 PM) I like the Dunn signing assuming it will happen. I just hope it means they don't have to dump pitching to afford him. Or settle for Tyler Flowers at catcher. I actually think that if we could Paulie and Dunn back, then we could punt a position like catcher to give Flowers some time to find his bearings at the Major League level. Can you imagine if Flowers comes into spring with his bat back? Pierre Rios Q Dunn Paulie Beckham Ramirez Morel Flowers Edited December 2, 2010 by Thunderbolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:27 PM) The internet must be working in his moms basement again. The funny thing is, he's actually at his parent's house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 10:29 PM) Unless you actually go back and include moves like Rios, where they essentially signed him to a 5 years 60ish million dollar contract by getting him off of waivers, or the Peavy deal, where they not only assumed his contract, but gave up players to do it. Sure it sounds better when you make it sound bad, but the reality is that the Sox have brought in lots of big dollar guys, both from the inside and outside. I disagree, as this is a situation where they went head-to-head with other teams financially to land a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 04:27 PM) The internet must be working in his moms basement again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:28 PM) Looking back at it, this shouldn't come as a shock after KW's desire to get Dunn last deadline. If the 15 moves that Williams made after there was speculation prior to don't end the "Williams always gets the guy you don't expect," then hopefully this one does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 04:30 PM) I disagree, as this is a situation where they went head-to-head with other teams financially to land a player. Oh come on fathom...you've defined it to the point that it's just meaningless. Half the other teams in the AL could have had Rios and none of them wanted him at that cost (and no other teams were reported to put in a claim on him either). Peavy was known to be available for months before we traded for him, and no other teams met the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 04:30 PM) I actually think that if we could Paulie and Dunn back, then we could punt a position like catcher to give Flowers some time to find his bearings at the Major League level. Can you imagine if Flowers comes into spring with his bat back? Pierre Rios Q Dunn Paulie Beckham Ramirez Morel Flowers Flowers Especially if he's allowed to bat twice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:30 PM) I disagree, as this is a situation where they went head-to-head with other teams financially to land a player. They go financially head to head with teams in trades too. Not only is there an existing contract to take on, but there are players involved. As we have seen in other trades, a team can outbid the Sox for a player on the trade market, just like they can on the free agent market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman kenny williams wanted 2 lefthanded hitters to start the winter. does dunn count as both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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