SoxFan562004 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:30 PM) I disagree, as this is a situation where they went head-to-head with other teams financially to land a player. all that means to me is the White Sox have chosen to spend wisely in FA when going head to head. They've been in on a lot of players, but pull back when it goes that extra 10+m or year or two. I would have loved for the Sox to sign Torii Hunter a few years back, but could easily see why they wouldn't go that extra that LAA swooped in with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Landing Dunn and re-signing Konerko would be fantastic. That would be, however, about $27 million tied up in 1st and DH. But, as someone noted, you're looking at a payroll of about $115 million. That's not outlandish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:32 PM) SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman kenny williams wanted 2 lefthanded hitters to start the winter. does dunn count as both? did KW want to add 2 never before on the team? Because I could see them bringing AJ back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kane0730 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Cowley will be on B&B at 4pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 I feel like extending Konerko would be a HUGE mistake, but we can worry that after Dunn is signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:33 PM) Landing Dunn and re-signing Konerko would be fantastic. That would be, however, about $27 million tied up in 1st and DH. But, as someone noted, you're looking at a payroll of about $115 million. That's not outlandish. it's also KW, he could have some crazy trade lined up. I imagine if they sign Dunn they would have had to promise him some run at 1B or OF, even though he is a bad defender. Also, he and his agent could have been using the not liking the DH for Dunn as leverage for some more money or an extra year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (kane0730 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:34 PM) Cowley will be on B&B at 4pm. Boers has solid baseball sources, hopefully he's calling his Sox guy during the break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:34 PM) I feel like extending Konerko would be a HUGE mistake, but we can worry that after Dunn is signed. depends what the $$ is, but I would worry about overpaying PK too, as much as I love him as a Sox player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 According to Rosenthal, Sox want an answer from Konerko about what is he looking for in his next contract. Rosenthal writes Sox feel like they are missing on opportunities while waiting for Paulie. I'm posting the column in the Konerko thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kane0730 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:34 PM) I feel like extending Konerko would be a HUGE mistake, but we can worry that after Dunn is signed. I tend to agree. I think PK will be good in 2011, but the decline will be swift after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:29 PM) Unless you actually go back and include moves like Rios, where they essentially signed him to a 5 years 60ish million dollar contract by getting him off of waivers, or the Peavy deal, where they not only assumed his contract, but gave up players to do it. Sure it sounds better when you make it sound bad, but the reality is that the Sox have brought in lots of big dollar guys, both from the inside and outside. But not during free agency when the guy basically goes to the highest bidder. This is a very unusual way the White Sox have used to acquire high priced guys really since the first couple of seasons of JR's ownership with the exception of Belle. They went after Fisk and Bannister, but since then, they really haven't been very active with the most expensive FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:36 PM) According to Rosenthal, Sox want an answer from Konerko about what is he looking for in his next contract. Rosenthal writes Sox feel like they are missing on opportunities while waiting for Paulie. I'm posting the column in the Konerko thread. makes sense and good to hear that the Sox are moving forward if they feel it's the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Cowley - Several Sox players are under the belief that not only is Dunn done deal, but PK is close. Seems the demise of JR's checkbook is exaggerated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 I honestly think Lee makes way more sense than Konerko. I don't want to say that Konerko "can never do what he did last year," but odds are greatly in favor of him regressing, atleast a little bit. I also don't think you can say that Lee is going to do what he did all of last year for a full year either. Lee is a better athlete than Konerko, plays better defense, comes with a shorter and cheaper commitment, and, I think, just as likely to put up big numbers. Konerko is going to get 2/$25 and Lee is going to get 1/$7, I don't think there's any question which move the Sox make. I honestly think that resigning Konerko forces the Sox to trade someone making a bit of money (though they also don't have to pay for 2 additional draft picks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:38 PM) But not during free agency when the guy basically goes to the highest bidder. This is a very unusual way the White Sox have used to acquire high priced guys really since the first couple of seasons of JR's ownership with the exception of Belle. They went after Fisk and Bannister, but since then, they really haven't been very active with the most expensive FA. Trades don't happen with the highest bidder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:25 PM) Heyman is now saying they are closing in on Dunn and still negotiating with Konerko. Maybe JR has a few Little Ceasers franchises he hasn't mentioned before. Signing Dunn is key to resigning PK. In fact, it's critical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 cst_sox cst_sox Several Sox players are under the belief that not only is Dunn done deal, but PK is close. Seems the demise of JR's checkbook is exaggerated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 09:38 PM) But not during free agency when the guy basically goes to the highest bidder. This is a very unusual way the White Sox have used to acquire high priced guys really since the first couple of seasons of JR's ownership with the exception of Belle. They went after Fisk and Bannister, but since then, they really haven't been very active with the most expensive FA. No kidding, I understand what you're trying to say. Not like I was calling JR or KW cheap, just that we don't usually up the ante to get players. Usually we know what the cost is when we go after someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:39 PM) Cowley - Several Sox players are under the belief that not only is Dunn done deal, but PK is close. Seems the demise of JR's checkbook is exaggerated wow, would be awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 02:27 PM) The internet must be working in his moms basement again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Didn't know Oney is considered a Sox player. Anyways, this has the makings of the White Sox version of the Bears first day of NFL Free Agency last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Dunn is gonna sign for $4/56M. That's some great work by the Sox brass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:42 PM) Dunn is gonna sign for $4/56M. That's some great work by the Sox brass. where did you get that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:31 PM) Oh come on fathom...you've defined it to the point that it's just meaningless. Half the other teams in the AL could have had Rios and none of them wanted him at that cost (and no other teams were reported to put in a claim on him either). Peavy was known to be available for months before we traded for him, and no other teams met the price. The teams that could afford Rios claimed after the Sox. Not that they would have. Also no NL team was able to claim him. Not that they would have. Peavy was injured. Neither is the same as getting a free agent on the open market. I'm not saying its a bad thing, SS2k5 just always assumes that. But it is a first for KW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:42 PM) Dunn is gonna sign for $4/56M. That's some great work by the Sox brass. 4 dollars for 56 months? Edited December 2, 2010 by BigSqwert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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