Steve9347 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/...2011-on-the-dl/ I’m preparing in my mind that this will be something that we take very slow and we’re very careful with, so that we can make sure we get a solid, healthy season out of him and not have him less than full strength and less than all he can be. I’m not looking at April in my mind, but he may surprise me. Edited November 17, 2010 by Steve9347 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 11:34 AM) http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/...2011-on-the-dl/ Bluff but apparently Bruce Levine has a source that claims Peavy won't be ready until June, per JoeCoolMan in the catch-all thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Chris Sale, start stretching out your arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 12:36 PM) Chris Sale, start stretching out your arm. Good. Never thought I would happy to see a starter out longer with an injury, but if it means not wasting Sale in the 'pen, then I am down for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I don't think anyone can pinpoint his exact recovery date right now. However, if it better to be conservative and to expect there to be delays. It wouldn't take too many delays before you are talking about a late May comeback. Right now the Sox are smart to not expect/count on Peavy. Unfortunately that really hurts when you don't have any guys you can look to in the farm to help you until than. In retrospect it would be really nice to have Huddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 11:40 AM) I don't think anyone can pinpoint his exact recovery date right now. However, if it better to be conservative and to expect there to be delays. It wouldn't take too many delays before you are talking about a late May comeback. Right now the Sox are smart to not expect/count on Peavy. Unfortunately that really hurts when you don't have any guys you can look to in the farm to help you until than. In retrospect it would be really nice to have Huddy. Yes, but then we wouldn't have Edwin Jackson. What's Freddy Garcia doing these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 12:40 PM) I don't think anyone can pinpoint his exact recovery date right now. However, if it better to be conservative and to expect there to be delays. It wouldn't take too many delays before you are talking about a late May comeback. Right now the Sox are smart to not expect/count on Peavy. Unfortunately that really hurts when you don't have any guys you can look to in the farm to help you until than. In retrospect it would be really nice to have Huddy. Would still be in the same spot because Huddy would just replace EJax, so either way, you have 4 starters and then Chris Sale/Tony Pena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 11:38 AM) Good. Never thought I would happy to see a starter out longer with an injury, but if it means not wasting Sale in the 'pen, then I am down for it. You'd prefer Sale starting & the Sox ace on the DL, than the ace in the rotation and Sale in the pen??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 06:44 PM) You'd prefer Sale starting & the Sox ace on the DL, than the ace in the rotation and Sale in the pen??? I prefer the first scenario you mention. I am scared of this team using Sale in the bullpen and making him the closer just cause he's a great reliever when he can become a good starting pitcher. He's going to have to become a starter sooner than later, so go ahead and start that process now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 11:44 AM) You'd prefer Sale starting & the Sox ace on the DL, than the ace in the rotation and Sale in the pen??? I was going to write the same thing. I understand that many here would love to see Sale as a starter with the hight draft pick he was, but this team is better with a healthy Jake Peavy and Sale than Sale in the rotation and a question mark in the bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 09:43 AM) Would still be in the same spot because Huddy would just replace EJax, so either way, you have 4 starters and then Chris Sale/Tony Pena Ya, but you'd have 10M more to play with to address holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 12:44 PM) You'd prefer Sale starting & the Sox ace on the DL, than the ace in the rotation and Sale in the pen??? Yeah. Sacrificing 1 month of an ace pitcher for the career of a potential future ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 12:47 PM) Ya, but you'd have 10M more to play with to address holes. $10? More like around $7.6M, but let's not turn this thread into another epic Hudson/Jackson debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted November 17, 2010 Author Share Posted November 17, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 11:50 AM) $10? More like around $7.6M, but let's not turn this thread into another epic Hudson/Jackson debate. I AM OUTRAGED I AM NOT GO SOX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 11:47 AM) Yeah. Sacrificing 1 month of an ace pitcher for the career of a potential future ace. I don't see how one extra season of Sale in the bullpen at age 22 would sacrifice his entire career? You have the guy under your control for a good amount of time, he doesn't have to start right now. If he pitches 200 innings this year, will that help his career? I don't want him to be a reliever his entire career, but the move does not need to be made today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 05:54 PM) I don't see how one extra season of Sale in the bullpen at age 22 would sacrifice his entire career? You have the guy under your control for a good amount of time, he doesn't have to start right now. If he pitches 200 innings this year, will that help his career? I don't want him to be a reliever his entire career, but the move does not need to be made today. This is the perfect time for the move to be made with the uncertainty with Peavy, Jackson likely being gone after this coming season, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 11:55 AM) This is the perfect time for the move to be made with the uncertainty with Peavy, Jackson likely being gone after this coming season, etc. That's a different argument and I can definitely see that point. I am just doubting that if he happens in pitch in the bullpen this year, his chances of ever being a great starter get thrown out the window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 So no one reads a statement from KW that Peavy will be on the DL as KW actually saying "Peavy's going to win 6 games for me in April and I'm going to rake someone over the coals for one of my pitchers"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) Yeah I'm gonna have to go out on a limb and say Sale isn't ever going to be an ace. His potential in the rotation is not anywhere near 7 innings per game of what you see in the ninth. He would be good, but he'd be a step down from Danks IMO. Definitely can't shout "ACE!" on him. And I'm not hating either, I love Chris Sale. He's incredible. Edited November 17, 2010 by Kenny Hates Prospects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) The best chance the Sox have is with Peavy in the rotation and Sale in the pen. Get well Jake. Edited November 17, 2010 by Kenny Hates Prospects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 07:13 PM) Yeah I'm gonna have to go out on a limb and say Sale isn't ever going to be an ace. His potential in the rotation is not anywhere near 7 innings per game of what you see in the ninth. He would be good, but he'd be a step down from Danks IMO. Definitely can't shout "ACE!" on him. And I'm not hating either, I love Chris Sale. He's incredible. I think Sale has more potential than Danks as a starter. It's not like Danks is a 7 innings per game guy either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox2334 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 freddy garcia will be back gurantee it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 11:42 AM) Yes, but then we wouldn't have Edwin Jackson. What's Freddy Garcia doing these days If June really is true, Garcia will be back, and it will happen soon, I bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 01:38 PM) If June really is true, Garcia will be back, and it will happen soon, I bet. If that's really true, then I'm shocked KW would come out and say anything. How does he benefit from other teams knowing he's after a back of the rotation starter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 12:45 PM) If that's really true, then I'm shocked KW would come out and say anything. How does he benefit from other teams knowing he's after a back of the rotation starter? To be fair, Kenny only talked about the start of the season. Bruce Levine said June. You might only need a fifth starter a few times in April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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