caulfield12 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 11:52 AM) Forms of insurance you wont even know about? WTF Insurance you still pay dearly for, but doesn't actually cover anything you need in a time of crisis. YAY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) CBO score for repeal only bill is in. 32 million more uninsured Premiums double by 2026 3/4's of Americans wouldn't be able to buy individual coverage because the markets would completely collapse. Edited July 19, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 04:35 PM) CBO score for repeal only bill is in. 32 million more uninsured Premiums double by 2026 3/4's of Americans wouldn't be able to buy individual coverage because the markets would completely collapse. Don't worry because, by repealing, the GOP will have a deadline that must be met which will inspire creativity and ingenuity to make its healthcare bill immaculate. It will be the most wonderful thing you've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 The want to skip the CBO and have the HHS grade it next time. I'm sure Price will be fair and honest like he always is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Luckily for John McCain's family, members of Congress will get to retain good healthcare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Somebody I know who has a condition that would force her to fork over about 50,000 a month was cussing out Moran tonight. Did he change his position? News stories are too damn complicated. Write them simpler like fricking sports stories. My pet peeve. You can't understand stories on health care and for instance, North Korea or the Middle East without being an expert. What did Moran do tonight that was so bad? She is furious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (Quin @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 09:51 PM) Luckily for John McCain's family, members of Congress will get to retain good healthcare. Jessica Roy ✔ @jessica_roy My friend's husband died of glioblastoma in AZ. They wrote a letter to McCain begging for his help. He advised them to move. 8:30 PM - 19 Jul 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 04:43 PM) The want to skip the CBO and have the HHS grade it next time. I'm sure Price will be fair and honest like he always is Thats like having John Paxon grade Gar Forman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 04:43 PM) The want to skip the CBO and have the HHS grade it next time. I'm sure Price will be fair and honest like he always is The HHS report on the Cruz amendment came back and they were touting how it showed a decrease of premiums today. They had assumed, for the high risk pool, deductibles of $12,000 a year to make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Matthew Yglesias ✔ @mattyglesias Idea: The compassion Senators feel for John McCain and his family, but applied to all Americans who have health care needs. 7:20 AM - 20 Jul 2017 · Washington, DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 (edited) The list of Byrd rule violations for the Senate bill is out. These are provisions that would require 60 votes in enact. https://twitter.com/sarahkliff/status/88851...src=twsrc%5Etfw What jumps out at me right away is that two of the major provisions, eliminating ehb's and block granting Medicaid, are still undecided, but defunding PP requires 60 votes so to pass this bill will require Republicans to vote for federal PP funding. Edited July 21, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Christopher D. Long @octonion Why does Trump think health insurance costs $12/year? Because Gerber advertises life insurance for babies on Fox News for about that price. 11:21am · 22 Jul 2017 · Twitter for Android The $12/year thing is from that insane NYT interview he did, and it's not the first time he's made comments like that. Never mind policy intricacies, he really has no idea what health insurance even is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 11:39 AM) The $12/year thing is from that insane NYT interview he did, and it's not the first time he's made comments like that. Never mind policy intricacies, he really has no idea what health insurance even is. He doesn't know the difference between health and life insurance. Just like he didn't and probably still doesn't know what Obamacare is. During the campaign he said his employees didn't like it. They were covered under his company's plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 They're holding the vote for a motion to proceed on some healthcare bill tomorrow, but nobody is sure exactly what they're going to be voting on (AHCA, BCRA, '15 R&R?) as of now, and regardless of whatever bill they hold this vote on, that'll kick off the whole 20 hours of debate that will be the entirety of the public debate for a massive health care bill. Then there will be a flurry of amendments, possibly dozens or hundreds of them, that get brought up for a vote. We really have no idea at all what health care policy will look like by the end of this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Apparently, Obamacare has reeked havoc for 17 years. You can't make this s*** up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 McCain is returning to Washington for the health care vote. They're actually going to pull this off. Oh my god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) But Republicans said they hoped they wouldn’t need McCain to get over the hump. And to get their members on board, they are being as vague as possible about what the final bill to replace Obamacare would include, after two recent drafts met fatal opposition. “We’re trying to maximize the number of votes. I’m sorry, am I guilty of telling the truth?” said Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn (R-Texas), explaining the GOP’s intentionally ambiguous strategy. ... Republicans are strongly considering a strategy that would tee up two separate votes — one on the repeal only and another on the plan the Senate has been working on to repeal and replace Obamacare. If one fails, "you set up a vote on the other one," said Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.). The theory behind the strategy is that by making that assurance, Republicans could pick up votes to start debate from ardent conservatives as well as waffling moderates. Politico.com Edited July 25, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Yup. It was bound to happen. This is what anyone who has voted Republican in the last 10 years has asked for - preexisting conditions, a huge tax cut for the upper class, and $13,000 a year deductible policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 24, 2017 -> 10:21 PM) Yup. It was bound to happen. This is what anyone who has voted Republican in the last 10 years has asked for - preexisting conditions, a huge tax cut for the upper class, and $13,000 a year deductible policies. Don't worry, Trump supporters are all rich and can afford those deductibles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Jul 24, 2017 -> 08:34 PM) McCain is returning to Washington for the health care vote. They're actually going to pull this off. Oh my god. It's fitting he leaves his recovery bed to go place a vote that will ensure millions never get a chance to be in such a bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 How very brave of The Maverick to risk his own life to doom millions of Americans to financial hardship and possibly death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) Obamacare is hurting these people—and Congress is doing nothing about it https://www.yahoo.com/news/obamacare-hurtin...-190245971.html Centene profit beats on Obamacare strength, higher enrollments http://www.nasdaq.com/article/centene-prof...70725-00479/amp Edited July 25, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 WaPo has a pretty good breakdown of what's going down today https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpo...fb043679543220/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) One big factor is what Mr. McConnell plans to do after the procedural vote. For example, Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky is an expected “no” vote if after clearing the procedural hurdle, the Senate turns to a bill by Mr. McConnell to repeal and replace the health law. Mr. Paul detests that bill. On the other hand, Senators Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska indicated last week that they would not vote to proceed if Mr. McConnell afterward scheduled a vote on a bill to repeal the health law without providing a replacement. In addition, a number of other Republican senators have expressed varying qualms, with varying degrees of certitude. They include Mike Lee of Utah, Jerry Moran of Kansas, Rob Portman of Ohio and Dean Heller of Nevada. Nytimes.com Vote will be sometime early this afternoon...or voteS. Collins no on basically everything. Edited July 25, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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