StrangeSox Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 LOL, what a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) 2018: 15 million more would be uninsured than under Obamacare 2020: 19 million more 2026: 22 million more I'm not sure why they didn't figure out a way to change the rules enough such that lots of people would be covered by Fun Bux Insuranze that was completely useless but didn't result in "20+ Million Americans to lose health insurance" but here we are Edited June 26, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Joshua Holland ✔ @JoshuaHol Per CBO, 4 million people would lose *employer-provided* coverage next year under BCRA. 3:30 PM - 26 Jun 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Joy. And premiums spike, with less people covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 When are they planning on voting for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jun 26, 2017 -> 03:37 PM) When are they planning on voting for this? Later this week, though it's unclear. There's still plenty of time for all of the "unsure" Republicans to add some token amendment, make the bill negligibly less horrendous, and then vote yes. In Indiana, police thugs are beating up sick and disabled health care protesters Jeff SteinVerified account @JStein_Vox Follow 19 disabled ppl just held sit-in @ Senate office in Indianapolis 2 were "thrown into wall & badly injured," reports ADAPT's Teresa Torres Torres told me security took their phones, so no video of event itself. Here are photos of the disabled activists being hospitalized after: Just got this text from Amber Smock, digital media contact with @NationalADAPT. No video proof but allegation is flooring: Edited June 26, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 My boss is a Trump guy so YAHOO! Anyone in Canada hiring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) this is how it gets to 50 votes: Sahil Kapur ✔ @sahilkapur CBO: Senate BCRA reduces the deficit by $202 billion MORE than AHCA. That's $202 billion in McConnell's pocket to win Republican holdouts. 3:40 PM - 26 Jun 2017 the party that whined so much about the "cornhusker kickback" that there were complaints about it in a SCOTUS dissent despite it not actually being in the final bill is going to openly buy off the last couple of votes they need in order to blow up 1/6 of our economy for wealthy tax cuts. Edited June 26, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 For low-income people, premiums will go up while coverage goes down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) The GOP plan for Obamacare could kill more people each year than gun homicides If 22 million people lose insurance, we'll see more than 24,000 extra deaths per year. We get the equivalent of eight 9/11's worth of deaths every year to fund tax cuts for millionaires. Jason Furman ✔ @jasonfurman Increased net premium paid (for worse plan) for a 64-year old making $56,800: $11,600 Tax cut for a 65-year old making $1,000,000: $11,600 3:43 PM - 26 Jun 2017 Edited June 26, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 26, 2017 -> 03:46 PM) this is how it gets to 50 votes: the party that whined so much about the "cornhusker kickback" that there were complaints about it in a SCOTUS dissent despite it not actually being in the final bill is going to openly buy off the last couple of votes they need in order to blow up 1/6 of our economy for wealthy tax cuts. Thats over 10 years, so basically tiny little drops in the bucket. Very tiny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StrangeSox Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 All of this scoring is without the "can't buy insurance for a 6 month window if you have a pre-existing condition" provision they're considering adding, which will only up the annual death, suffering and bankruptcy toll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Republicans also argue that more people may choose to stop purchasing health insurance without the threat of Obamacare’s penalty for going uninsured, which this bill eliminates. Instead, an updated version of the Senate bill includes a provision that would lock people out of coverage for six months if they were previously uninsured. That is meant to discourage people from waiting until they are sick to purchase health insurance. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/26/c...are-bill-239967 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Millions less covered, worse coverage, higher premiums. But millionaires and billionaires get a hefty tax cut, so really it all balances out in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Does the red middle of the country think this benefits them or are they just voting because of the ®? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 26, 2017 -> 11:08 AM) No. Just f***ing no. Millions and millions of Americans had their health care situation completely ruined by the ACA, but hey, if you ever checked the box next to R once, then you wish for cancer to ruin every American family. Just wow. "We could have made a better health care plan if we had made the subsidies larger and done more to control drug prices." "Replublicans reply: "if you can't afford health care you should get a better job - it's your failure. If you cost more than $2 million over a lifetime you don't deserve to be alive." Frankly, yeah, you're ok with that if you've pushed a button for a R. The ACA could have been improved. Instead, we're going back to where we were in 2009 - 50 million uninsured, uninsurables, lifetime caps, plans that don't cover the things you actually get and you don't realize it until it's too late. They have been saying that for 10 years. They have been saying for 10 years that people on minimum wage jobs don't deserve health care coverage. People who get sick better have money already. They have said that over and over and over and over and over again. They had no interest in helping people access health care, their #1 priority was denying it to anyone who was undeserving. So yeah, if you've voted for an R, you've been voting to deny health care entirely to 10s of millions of people. Not to fix any of the problems you might note, to go back to where we were in 2009 instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Bradd Jaffy ✔ @BraddJaffy WASHINGTON (AP) -- Lacking votes, Senate GOP leaders abruptly delay vote on health care bill until after July 4th recess. 12:48 PM - 27 Jun 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 27, 2017 -> 10:32 AM) Does the red middle of the country think this benefits them or are they just voting because of the ®? Both. Many of them think the ACA is why healthcare is so expensive, and they think this will immediately make everything affordable. The rest are following whatever they see or read on Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) In reference to trump running ads against Nevada Republican Senator Heller Jim Acosta ✔ @Acosta One key GOP source close to Senate process says decision to run ads against Heller is alienating Republican senators: "You cannot do that." 1:16 PM - 27 Jun 2017 Jonathan Martin ✔ @jmartNYT News: McConnell called Reince last Saturday, told him attacks on Heller are "beyond stupid" Edited June 27, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Chris Hayes explains to Rep. Rooney how a compromise committee works and that, yes, he'll have to vote on this again https://twitter.com/allinwithchris/status/879765752055644160 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Jerry Moran ✔ @JerryMoran The Senate healthcare bill missed the mark for Kansans and therefore did not have my support. 2:16 PM - 27 Jun 2017 head of the NRSC, the main campaign organization for Senate Republicans. They're pissed about the ads attacking Heller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 MJ Lee ✔ @mj_lee Portman and Capito say they oppose health care bill after vote already delayed > https://twitter.com/FoxReports/status/879790706105122818 … 2:57 PM - 27 Jun 2017 pretty skeptical of all of these "no's" coming out after the vote was delayed, and we saw something similar happen in the House. But still, this is much, much better than 50 yes's for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) Chad Pergram ✔ @ChadPergram At mtg w/GOP sens on health care, Trump says Obamacare is in a "meltdown." Adds "I think we have either 52 out of 52 or 50 out of 52" 3:19 PM - 27 Jun 2017 Jennifer Jacobs ✔ @JenniferJJacobs Trump to GOP senators on health care: "If we don't get it done it's just going to be something that we're not going to like and that's OK." 3:29 PM - 27 Jun 2017 Edited June 27, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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