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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 28, 2017 -> 12:55 PM)

 

Nearly 9 million children in this country rely on CHIP, and it expires this Saturday.

 

This expired over the weekend. Here's when states will start running out of CHIP funds because Republicans were too busy trying to strip 20+ million people of health insurance again:

 

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Just got my annual letter, "Your healthcare plan will no longer be offered in 2018. If you wish to continue coverage, you will need to select a new plan by January 1." I can't wait to see how much more coverage they take away while charging me more.

 

The ACA - the gift that keeps on giving!!!

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 08:19 AM)
Just got my annual letter, "Your healthcare plan will no longer be offered in 2018. If you wish to continue coverage, you will need to select a new plan by January 1." I can't wait to see how much more coverage they take away while charging me more.

 

The ACA - the gift that keeps on giving!!!

It was flawed and needed to be worked on, but Trump and his crew have sabotaged it to make it worse for everyone, therefore pissing people off and agreeing with him. But there will be millions who won't be able to see the game the guy is playing with so many lives, and wind up on his side, with something far worse, while padding the pockets of the people who already have money they will never spend. Maybe if he keeps the unnecessary deaths in the thousands he will be very proud and not consider it a real catastrophe.

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 08:19 AM)
Just got my annual letter, "Your healthcare plan will no longer be offered in 2018. If you wish to continue coverage, you will need to select a new plan by January 1." I can't wait to see how much more coverage they take away while charging me more.

 

The ACA - the gift that keeps on giving!!!

This was deliberate. It's literally part of keeping a private health care system. People are supposed to be compelled to shop around once a year.

 

Don't you feel pride in the free market?

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And more deliberate sabotaging of health care markets

 

Trump told HHS to deny request to fix Iowa ObamaCare market: report

 

For months, officials in Republican-controlled Iowa had sought federal permission to revitalize their ailing health-insurance marketplace. Then President Trump read about the request in a newspaper story and called the federal director weighing the application.

 

Trump’s message in late August was clear, according to individuals who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations: Tell Iowa no.

 

Supporters of the Affordable Care Act see the president’s opposition even to changes sought by conservative states as part of a broader campaign by his administration to undermine the 2010 health-care law. In addition to trying to cut funding for the ACA, the Trump administration also is hampering state efforts to control premiums. In the case of Iowa, that involved a highly unusual intervention by the president himself.

 

And with the fifth enrollment season set to begin Nov. 1, advocates say the Health and Human Services Department has done more to suppress the number of people signing up than to boost it. HHS has slashed grants to groups that help consumers get insurance coverage, for example. It also has cut the enrollment period in half, reduced the advertising budget by 90 percent and announced an outage schedule that would make the HealthCare.gov website less available than last year.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 10:48 AM)
Trump Administration Set to Roll Back Birth Control Mandate

 

The requirement that health insurance plans cover birth control is going to be axed today.

I was an a train a few months ago, and some people in front of me were talking. They worked at an adoption agency. One of the women was saying how adoptions had dropped significantly since Obamacare became law. They were speculating the number of unplanned pregnancies went down due to the available birth control.

 

In the long run, this will costs those companies that refuse to pay for it more. It's stupid.

 

 

What Trump is doing to Obamacare is trying to make it suck even worse. Then he will will say, see I told you. It's junk. And millions will agree. I feel really bad for those who have to use it. It's only going to get worse, and then will eventually be replaced by something even worse.

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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 12, 2017 -> 10:56 AM)
Someone tell me this Executive Order doesn't just undo all the fighting we've done to prevent Obamacare repeal. What was the point of all of that?

 

Someone smarter than me explain what just happened.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/12/politics/tru...rder/index.html

 

It sounds like a mixed bag. On one hand, it would allow people more options to buy insurance. The premiums would be lower, but the benefits would be less as well. The problem with that is that it would mean less people paying for Obamacare, which means the people that are still on it would have to pay more to make up the difference.

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QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Oct 12, 2017 -> 11:06 AM)
It sounds like a mixed bag. On one hand, it would allow people more options to buy insurance. The premiums would be lower, but the benefits would be less as well. The problem with that is that it would mean less people paying for Obamacare, which means the people that are still on it would have to pay more to make up the difference.

Yes, it seems to me, the people who don't use the insurance, the young and healthy, will find other, cheaper plans, probably with less coverage. The people with existing conditions, will see their options dwindle, and costs rise.

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 08:42 AM)
It was flawed and needed to be worked on, but Trump and his crew have sabotaged it to make it worse for everyone, therefore pissing people off and agreeing with him. But there will be millions who won't be able to see the game the guy is playing with so many lives, and wind up on his side, with something far worse, while padding the pockets of the people who already have money they will never spend. Maybe if he keeps the unnecessary deaths in the thousands he will be very proud and not consider it a real catastrophe.

 

I've never ever supported the current Trump/GOP health plan, so I don't see why that's relevant. The ACA sucks and has f***ed me over royally and thats what I thought this thread was for.

 

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 08:54 AM)
This was deliberate. It's literally part of keeping a private health care system. People are supposed to be compelled to shop around once a year.

 

Don't you feel pride in the free market?

 

Once you stop being condescending we can have a discussion, until then, no thanks.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 12, 2017 -> 10:29 PM)
The problem is that the GOP has never and most likely will never have a non-garbage healthcare plan. The ahca,brca and Graham-Cassidy dumpster fires are the best you should ever have expected and the best they ever promised.

 

I did fine with health insurance before the ACA happened. I realize that people like me are the guinea pigs that got compromised to help others in the ACA, but doesn't mean I can't complain about it.

 

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 12, 2017 -> 10:56 PM)
I did fine with health insurance before the ACA happened. I realize that people like me are the guinea pigs that got compromised to help others in the ACA, but doesn't mean I can't complain about it.

 

You didnt need to though. Had Republicans worked with Democrats they could have made healthcare cheaper/better for everyone.

 

Now that Republican's are in charge my monthly premium doubled this year.

 

Thanks Trump.

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QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 13, 2017 -> 02:30 PM)
LOL. You realize that premiums were skyrocketing no matter who got elected because of Obamacare right?

I also realized jobs had been created before Trump, the stock market rose before Trump and was trending higher when he took over, yet he has taken credit for all of it. So if you are going to take credit......

 

Besides the post you are responding to said if Dems and Republicans worked together, everyone, including Obama, said this needed fixing, but Trump is sabotaging it.

 

It's like a spoled teenager who wants a new car and his parents say no. He ignores the oil light until the engine is destroyed and says, see I told you we needed a new car.

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QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 13, 2017 -> 02:30 PM)
LOL. You realize that premiums were skyrocketing no matter who got elected because of Obamacare right?

 

I dont know what would have happened. All I know is that under Obama my premiums slightly increased. First year under Trump they doubled.

 

Thanks Trump.

 

(Maybe you arent getting the joke, but this is what people said about Obama for years.)

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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 13, 2017 -> 08:32 PM)
I dont know what would have happened. All I know is that under Obama my premiums slightly increased.

 

You have group insurance.

 

If you were young and healthy prior to the ACA, individual insurance was really cheap. After the ACA, premiums went way up. My health insurance through BCBS went from $90/month to $300/month. I was fortunate that my status at work changed and I was added to their group insurance.

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QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Oct 13, 2017 -> 03:40 PM)
You have group insurance.

 

If you were young and healthy prior to the ACA, individual insurance was really cheap. After the ACA, premiums went way up. My health insurance through BCBS went from $90/month to $300/month. I was fortunate that my status at work changed and I was added to their group insurance.

 

Right, so it wasnt Obamacare that caused my premium to go up so drastically. Ive had the same plan through my employer for almost 10 years. Yet this year it doubled.

 

Uncertainty is the worst thing for insurance companies, so until people realize that, expect random crazy insurance premium increases.

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