southsider2k5 Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 23, 2010 -> 04:46 PM) Like somebody said before, he has to do better than A-Rod, or something along those lines. Jeter's ego is too large not to be fed with a long and expensive contract. Good, let his ego think about that when he finishes his career in Baltimore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Nov 23, 2010 -> 04:24 PM) Jeter Talks Turn Ugly Keeps getting better. Love this line: The really baffling thing is that Jeter — through Close — has made his feelings public. For a decade, Jeter has stood apart from other players in that money has never been an issue. His expired 10-year, $189 million deal had no opt-out dates or escalator clauses Never been about the money (for a guy making close to $200 million dollars before endorsement deals)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 26, 2010 Author Share Posted November 26, 2010 Jeter apparently wants [cue drum roll] 6 years and $150 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 26, 2010 -> 12:31 PM) Jeter apparently wants [cue drum roll] 6 years and $150 million Yeah...good luck with that. The Yankees make these guys delusional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 QUOTE (Tex @ Nov 20, 2010 -> 07:48 AM) Are you suggesting that players are worth the same regardless of city? And as soon as other factors are tossed in, on both sides, the dollar values change. Take something as easy as state income taxes. Playing half of your games in Texs, without a state income tax is worth something to a player. Living in New York, with it's cost of living, is different than living in Minneapolis with theirs. Then the marketing department gets involved. Some players will sell more tickets in one city than another. Are you serious? Don't you think that is a bit laughable considering the amount of money most of the Yankees' star players make? I can understand if you're talking about a six-figure job, or even a low-seven figure job...but once you get into the eight-figures, the difference in living expenses is probably not making a huge dent in your overall compensation package. If I were Cashman, I'd offer the 3/$45 and say take it or leave it. That's a fair amount of money, and any team that pays him above that amount would be overpaying themselves. What a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Yeah, if I made $10 million a year, New York City's cost of living wouldn't faze me a bit. Hell, I would just live off investment income. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 26, 2010 -> 01:50 PM) Are you serious? Don't you think that is a bit laughable considering the amount of money most of the Yankees' star players make? I can understand if you're talking about a six-figure job, or even a low-seven figure job...but once you get into the eight-figures, the difference in living expenses is probably not making a huge dent in your overall compensation package. If I were Cashman, I'd offer the 3/$45 and say take it or leave it. That's a fair amount of money, and any team that pays him above that amount would be overpaying themselves. What a joke. Agreed wholeheartedly here. I really want the Yankees to stay at that offer and see Jeter beg for more money from other teams only to have to come back to the Yankees with tail between his legs accepting that offer. 6 yrs/$150 million my ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 26, 2010 Author Share Posted November 26, 2010 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Nov 26, 2010 -> 01:01 PM) Agreed wholeheartedly here. I really want the Yankees to stay at that offer and see Jeter beg for more money from other teams only to have to come back to the Yankees with tail between his legs accepting that offer. 6 yrs/$150 million my ass. I'd start with the 3/45, and if they really asked for 6/150, I'd lower my offer to like 2/20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk23 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 The only reason I don't like that 3 year contract is that I want him to sign for longer. I want him to be a terrible shortstop with a declining bat for as long as possible, who can't be benched because he's Derek Jeter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 I think the reason why he's doing this is simply because they gave A-Rod the world when no one else was going to and couldn't even if they wanted to. If they didn't overpay A-Rod, I'm sure Derek would be less crazy about his next contract. But they gave A-Rod a crazy base salary, incentives up the wazoo, and an ownership stake in the team. It's ridiculous what he got without having any leverage, and now Derek wants the love too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 27, 2010 Author Share Posted November 27, 2010 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Nov 26, 2010 -> 06:17 PM) I think the reason why he's doing this is simply because they gave A-Rod the world when no one else was going to and couldn't even if they wanted to. If they didn't overpay A-Rod, I'm sure Derek would be less crazy about his next contract. But they gave A-Rod a crazy base salary, incentives up the wazoo, and an ownership stake in the team. It's ridiculous what he got without having any leverage, and now Derek wants the love too. If Jeter is using ARod as him comparison, he is stupid. Look at the ages they were at the end of their respective contracts, and the seasons they put up. There would have been a market for Alex, while not what the Yankees paid, him, it still would have been 80-90% of what he got. Jeter probably would be lucky to get a third of what he is asking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 26, 2010 -> 06:27 PM) If Jeter is using ARod as him comparison, he is stupid. Look at the ages they were at the end of their respective contracts, and the seasons they put up. There would have been a market for Alex, while not what the Yankees paid, him, it still would have been 80-90% of what he got. Jeter probably would be lucky to get a third of what he is asking for. I agree it's stupid, but Derek probably sees it as "I've done so much more for the organization, done whatever you guys wanted, am your captain, I never went into FA before, done more than A-Rod, it's time to pay up". Yes, their ages are different, but I don't think Derek really is paying attention to that. And I think A-Rod would get at most, 80% of what his last contract was and he definitely would not have gotten ownership stake in the team he signed with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 apparently this is what Jeter is asking for per rotoworld Derek Jeter-SS-Yankees Nov. 26 - 9:31 pm et The New York Times' Michael S. Schmidt reports that Derek Jeter’s agent, Casey Close, is asking the Yankees for a four- or five-year deal worth $23-24 million per season. Earlier reports had Close looking for a six-year, $150 million deal, which he denied. This is a little better, but it sounds like he's asking, at minimum, for $92 million over four years, which is one year and $47 million less than the Yankees' perfectly reasonable offer. We really can't see the Yanks budging much here, as Jeter simply isn't worth close to what his agent is wanting, no matter how much of an icon he is. Close is going to have to drop his demands significantly to get something done. Source: The New York Times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 I think Jeter's name alone would get him a bigger contract than the Yankees are offering him, but I don't think anyone really believes he would actually leave the Yankees, therefore will not get a legitimate offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 27, 2010 -> 07:20 AM) I think Jeter's name alone would get him a bigger contract than the Yankees are offering him, but I don't think anyone really believes he would actually leave the Yankees, therefore will not get a legitimate offer. From whom though? I am trying to imagine Derek Jeter honestly being available as a FA. I suppose some team might offer more than the 3/$45 because of the media attention and short-term boost in revenues he could bring, but I really can't fathom him being worth any more than 3/$50 or 4/$60, and that contract has a real possibility of being a disaster, should Jeter see a sharp decline in his late-30's seasons... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 27, 2010 -> 09:17 AM) From whom though? I am trying to imagine Derek Jeter honestly being available as a FA. I suppose some team might offer more than the 3/$45 because of the media attention and short-term boost in revenues he could bring, but I really can't fathom him being worth any more than 3/$50 or 4/$60, and that contract has a real possibility of being a disaster, should Jeter see a sharp decline in his late-30's seasons... If I were Boston, I'd think the spite press would be worth 3/$50 or 4/$60 to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 27, 2010 -> 11:49 AM) If I were Boston, I'd think the spite press would be worth 3/$50 or 4/$60 to me. I think the first year you might realize some real value, then the novelty would wear off and a real decline might begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 27, 2010 -> 11:49 AM) If I were Boston, I'd think the spite press would be worth 3/$50 or 4/$60 to me. I don't believe there would be much spite press there. Not like when the Red Sox could not make a deal for A-Rod and the Yankees swooped in. It has to be someone the Yankees really want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 (edited) Fun article about Yankees legends ending their careers elsewhere: http://content.usatoday.com/communities/da...ankees/1?csp=34 Edited November 29, 2010 by bschmaranz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Don't be suprised if the Yankees lose out on Jeter to see them make the same offer to Waldis Joaquin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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