Buehrlesque Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 McCarthy was cut by the Rangers last month and has dealt with a bunch of injuries over the last few years, but he could benefit from a move to a part time starter/part time reliever. At the same time Tony Pena, despite the high price the Sox paid to acquire him, isn't really anything special and will likely make about $2 million next year if offered arbitration. Assuming McCarthy could be had for $1 million or less, which scenario would you choose: bring back Pena at ~$2 million or DFA Pena and replace him with the less-expensive McCarthy? Maybe not a huge decision, but McCarthy has the higher ceiling (especially if you're not sold on Pena, which I'm not) despite the injury risk and would save KW a million plus that he cold use elsewhere. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Pena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 McCarthy's not getting a ML deal from anyone. Plus, his stuff hasn't been the stuff we saw pre-injuries. If the choice in between the 2, it's definitely Pena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Long Reliever: Pena 60-day DL spot: McCarthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Didn't McCarthy burn a few bridges on his way out of town when he was traded to the Rangers? Maybe a return to Coop can get him back in some form. He'd be alright for a project, but I wouldn't expect to get anything out of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Yeah, no chance McCarthy is being brought back to this organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 (edited) Neither?? Sean Lowe circa 2001. I still remember his clutch fake-to-third, throw-to-first pickoff move against the Cubs. Edited November 22, 2010 by maggsmaggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Man, after a big hot stove opening day, this has been a rather slow week in the White Sox/MLB offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrlesque Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Nov 22, 2010 -> 11:23 AM) Man, after a big hot stove opening day, this has been a rather slow week in the White Sox/MLB offseason. Haha, I was thinking the same thing when I started this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Nov 22, 2010 -> 11:10 AM) Didn't McCarthy burn a few bridges on his way out of town when he was traded to the Rangers? Maybe a return to Coop can get him back in some form. He'd be alright for a project, but I wouldn't expect to get anything out of him. IIRC, it was actually the other way around. I believe it was Ozzie who had something to say about who he hung around with and what his late night habits were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 You need to stay away from injury prone pitchers. We have one that was supposed to be our ace so we don't need two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Nov 22, 2010 -> 10:52 AM) Pena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 If Brandon wants to come back here at all, the most I would do is offer him a minor league deal with an invite to spring training. I sure wouldn't clear a spot out of our rotation just for him. I'd with with Sale first, and then Pena before I would count on Bmac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrlesque Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 QUOTE (sircaffey @ Nov 22, 2010 -> 10:52 AM) McCarthy's not getting a ML deal from anyone. Plus, his stuff hasn't been the stuff we saw pre-injuries. If the choice in between the 2, it's definitely Pena. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 22, 2010 -> 12:01 PM) If Brandon wants to come back here at all, the most I would do is offer him a minor league deal with an invite to spring training. I sure wouldn't clear a spot out of our rotation just for him. I'd with with Sale first, and then Pena before I would count on Bmac. Injuries or not, I bet McCarthy gets ML deal from someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Didn't McCarthy say something tremendously stupid to the media about being excited to play in Texas because he hated playing in hot weather? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGSOXFan14 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I know its MLBTR but I read this and thought id contribute: At Least 7 Teams Interested In Brandon McCarthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Neither as a starter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Pena was awful as a starter at the end of the year. I can't stand that guy. I'd rather have Carlos f***ing Torres out there and he might be the worst pitcher in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 QUOTE (jphat007 @ Nov 22, 2010 -> 03:12 PM) Pena was awful as a starter at the end of the year. I can't stand that guy. I'd rather have Carlos f***ing Torres out there and he might be the worst pitcher in history. He started two freakin games at the end of the season(one of which happened to be a quality start), hardly enough of a sample size to make a decision on him as a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 He also had a start where the threw 6 perfect innings and got touch up in the middle of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I know that the circumstances have changed now that BA is gone, but i still don't think Ozzie would take a shine to having Brandon back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I like Pena, but he really needs to take a step this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 22, 2010 -> 12:01 PM) If Brandon wants to come back here at all, the most I would do is offer him a minor league deal with an invite to spring training. I sure wouldn't clear a spot out of our rotation just for him. I'd with with Sale first, and then Pena before I would count on Bmac. ^^^^ x2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balfanman Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Nov 22, 2010 -> 11:49 AM) McCarthy was cut by the Rangers last month and has dealt with a bunch of injuries over the last few years, but he could benefit from a move to a part time starter/part time reliever. At the same time Tony Pena, despite the high price the Sox paid to acquire him, isn't really anything special What is this "high price" that was paid for Tony Pena? Brandon Allen has proven nothing at the major league level and most likely never will be anything near an all star. Tony Pena, while not reaching all star level either, has at least been a very serviceable major league reliever. At this point the Sox have the better end of that trade and I would bet that 5 years from now we will still be considered the winner of that trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Pena is quite sufficient at janitorial duties. If it's a question of starting, I'd rather roll the dice on McCarthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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