fathom Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 QUOTE (joeynach @ Nov 30, 2010 -> 08:15 PM) Orlando Hudson is going to give u .280/.350/.420 and is a plus defender, thats what matters, thats all that matters when it comes to evaluating him as a player, PERIOD! You must enjoy playing fantasy sports. I can't believe that a Sox fan would say that after the Swisher and OC debacles here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 30, 2010 -> 03:16 PM) You must enjoy playing fantasy sports. I can't believe that a Sox fan would say that after the Swisher and OC debacles here. Lets also not pretend that it hasn't worked with certain guys that we've picked up. It all depends on the situation, O Dog might fit in perfectly with the Sox clubhouse, who the hell knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Nov 30, 2010 -> 09:49 PM) Lets also not pretend that it hasn't worked with certain guys that we've picked up. It all depends on the situation, O Dog might fit in perfectly with the Sox clubhouse, who the hell knows. Oh, I agree. I haven't heard Hudson is a bad guy...rather, he's just very vocal. I think a lot of it depends on what happens to Konerko and AJP, and the impact that has on our clubhouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 30, 2010 -> 03:50 PM) Oh, I agree. I haven't heard Hudson is a bad guy...rather, he's just very vocal. I think a lot of it depends on what happens to Konerko and AJP, and the impact that has on our clubhouse. Wasn't he with Guillen and Pierre down in Florida? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Nov 30, 2010 -> 04:54 PM) Wasn't he with Guillen and Pierre down in Florida? I think you're thinking of Luis Castillo. Hudson came up with Torotno and then went on to Arizona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 QUOTE (ptatc @ Nov 30, 2010 -> 04:04 PM) I disagree. A player's demeanor in a club house can make a big difference. They can cause a real division in the clubhouse and as long as you are winning it's fine. However, when the team hits that inevitably losing streak, problems can arise. These players are together all the time and it can wear on a player mentally and emotionally. Think about your workplace, if the person at the desk next to you is always complaining or is a real jerk, it has an impact on your performance. It doesn't always make a difference if the team is always playing well. But it can make a difference which is why guys like him and Bradley are shipped around even with the talent they have. Performance has a way of allowing people to get away with abrasive and annoying personalities. At work if the top performer is an asshole or just plain mean, you put up with it. If hes not performing you fire him. Same with Swisher, if the abrasive ass in clubhouse is hitting .210 and striking out like crazy, you trade him, if hes a tremendous performer, making great plays, and the glue to your pitching staff (ala AJ) then you keep him around. Its that simple. Performance trumps personality/demeanor.........im not saying I agree I'm saying we know thats how it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 QUOTE (joeynach @ Nov 30, 2010 -> 05:32 PM) Performance has a way of allowing people to get away with abrasive and annoying personalities. At work if the top performer is an asshole or just plain mean, you put up with it. If hes not performing you fire him. Same with Swisher, if the abrasive ass in clubhouse is hitting .210 and striking out like crazy, you trade him, if hes a tremendous performer, making great plays, and the glue to your pitching staff (ala AJ) then you keep him around. Its that simple. Performance trumps personality/demeanor.........im not saying I agree I'm saying we know thats how it is. I agree. We aren't talking about Ryan Howard or Albert Pujols. These guys could get away with it. Hudson doesn't fall into this category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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