Rowand44 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 12:47 PM) I assume you mean Viciedo. Teahen for Bell has about as real a chance as me making my major league debut this year. People's sarcasm detectors need to be fixed today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEdWalsh Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Haul out the holly Put up the tree before my spirit falls again Fill up the stocking I may be rushing things, but deck the halls again now For we need a little Christmas Right this very minute Candles in the window Carols at the spinet Yes, we need a little Christmas Right this very minute It hasn't snowed a single flurry But Santa, dear, we're in a hurry So climb down the chimney Turn on the brightest string of light I've ever seen Slice up the fruitcake It's time we hung some tinsel on that evergreen bough For I've grown a little leaner Grown a little colder Grown a little sadder Grown a little older And I need a little angel Sitting on my shoulder Need a little Christmas now For we need a little music Need a little laughter Need a little singing Ringing through the rafter And we need a little snappy "Happy ever after" Need a little Christmas now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Well if it is a straight up salary dump and we're not kicking in any cash then the payroll is down to $93.05M. The dumping of Jenks and Linebrink the past 2 days basically paid for Adam Dunn's 2011 salary (assuming it's $14M). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 01:49 PM) I think he will be solid. I don't think he's worth what the Sox were paying him and he didn't really fit our roll since we need more regularly consistent set-up guys. Since as of now we essentially have Santos and Thorty (thorty is a rock if healthy, but Santos is still very raw). I might be missing someone, but Sale is our 5th starter currently. I still think KW is flat out lying when he says Peavy won't be ready for opening day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 12:50 PM) Well if it is a straight up salary dump and we're not kicking in any cash then the payroll is down to $93.05M. The dumping of Jenks and Linebrink the past 2 days basically paid for Adam Dunn's 2011 salary (assuming it's $14M). Sounds like we gave Atlanta some cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 01:49 PM) People's sarcasm detectors need to be fixed today. Sorry, i'm elated at the direction of this team to the point where a lot of this stuff is flying past me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 12:47 PM) In the current situation, Teahen could be pretty valuable. Its nice having a guy like him who you can go to in a pinch at multiple positions. I wish he didn't make quite as much as he did, but there is some value in that flexibility. Plus if Morel struggles at third you at least have another option instead of just using Omar Vizquel full time (or Viciedo), not that I want Teahen to be a regular at 3B. Omar is a zillion times better in the IF and Jones at worst probably costs half what Teahen makes. Dumping that piece of garbage and replacing him with Jones, then getting out of that 2012 commitment with some extra cash in our pockets makes us a better baseball team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 01:51 PM) Sorry, i'm elated at the direction of this team to the point where a lot of this stuff is flying past me. Haha, it's not a problem, just funny. You've been on both sides of it now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 01:46 PM) Teahen is overpaid for his job...but being able to be a backup IF and backup OF in a pinch is really useful for that 4th guy off the bench. It makes no sense to dump Teahen if we have to send salary along with him. Over the past three seasons, Teahen has been worse than replacement level. Except Teahen doesn't make the league minimum, he's being paid $10M over the next two seasons. It makes complete sense to dump him for any salary relief when his production can be replaced quite easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 12:50 PM) Sounds like we gave Atlanta some cash. Yeah, I see Jon Paul Morosi tweeted that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Remember folks, Atlanta did give that deal to Derek Lowe and they did give that deal to Kawakami as well. Maybe they think Linebrink isn't all *that* overpaid afterall? One can only hope... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Teahen's mentioned a few times that he's happy as long as he plays. He's not going to be playing much here, and I have to think there was some agreement about playing time between him and Kenny when the extension was signed. I think he gets traded for sure if only to give him a chance to play everyday somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Like already posted...loving the KW Ninja being back. Even if you give a couple Mildo to ATL...I cannot see this as nothing but positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Linebrink gone, Dunn signed?.....call the offseason 75% successful already! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 10:50 AM) I still think KW is flat out lying when he says Peavy won't be ready for opening day. What value is there in him lying about that? Does he feel it gives him more leverage? And if so, how? Unless you feel that he wants to move one of our starters and he can say, hey, I don't want to trade starter X and can't trade him because Peavy won't be back, so you need to blow me away? But I don't really think many GM's are going to fall for that. Ultimately, when it comes to any trade you need to determine if the other team is going to give you what you consider appropriate value and vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 01:51 PM) Omar is a zillion times better in the IF and Jones at worst probably costs half what Teahen makes. Dumping that piece of garbage and replacing him with Jones, then getting out of that 2012 commitment with some extra cash in our pockets makes us a better baseball team. With all the caveats possible, Jones was worth about $4 million in 2009 and $7 million in 2010 according to fangraphs. Some team with a OF platoon-type weakness ought to be giving him $4 million or so. I think he's actually an ideal fit for the Twins if they move Kubel and keep Thome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 10:51 AM) Omar is a zillion times better in the IF and Jones at worst probably costs half what Teahen makes. Dumping that piece of garbage and replacing him with Jones, then getting out of that 2012 commitment with some extra cash in our pockets makes us a better baseball team. I don't know if you are just going to be able to dump him, but I could be wrong. If it takes 6M to remove him, than I don't know if I agree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Yeah, Joe Cowley was all over this one! Oh wait, he missed out again. Anyways, this is a great deal providing that the money is something like half or less of Line's salary. I don't really care who we got back honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 A Major Leauge source said the #Braves will receive $1.5 million from the White Sox to help account for Linebrink's $5.5 mil. salary. According to @mlbbowman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 I'll f***ing take that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 01:57 PM) What value is there in him lying about that? Does he feel it gives him more leverage? And if so, how? Unless you feel that he wants to move one of our starters and he can say, hey, I don't want to trade starter X and can't trade him because Peavy won't be back, so you need to blow me away? But I don't really think many GM's are going to fall for that. Ultimately, when it comes to any trade you need to determine if the other team is going to give you what you consider appropriate value and vice versa. Whether or not GM's fall for that, I think that's exactly what Kenny is doing. Otherwise...why would he have come out and said anything at all? There's no benefit to coming out and saying that Peavy won't be ready for April if he's not going to be ready, it puts us in a worse negotiating position in other ways, because teams will know that the Sox will be in the market for a 6th-starter type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 12:59 PM) A Major Leauge source said the #Braves will receive $1.5 million from the White Sox to help account for Linebrink's $5.5 mil. salary. According to @mlbbowman Sounds great to me. That more than pays for AJ this season. Good work KW, whats next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 12:59 PM) A Major Leauge source said the #Braves will receive $1.5 million from the White Sox to help account for Linebrink's $5.5 mil. salary. According to @mlbbowman SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Kenny I NEVER SHOULD HAVE DOUBTED YUOU!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 12:43 PM) *Kenny's phone ringing* Kenny: Ken Williams here...uh huh.... WHAT? *puts phone down, looks around the room all crazy* Kenny: Yeah, wait... like, you said Linebrink, right?...Yahuh....k, hang on a second... *presses the hold button* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA *picks the phone back up* Kenny: You there? Sure, we can do that... I loled... If anyone ever says anything bad about my GM again, I'm going to hit them with a dragon punch from Street Fighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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