Don't Ask Don't Tell.

[Quin]

The military (especially the "grunts") are going to have a huge problem with this at first but eventually when they see that they aren't being attacked in the shower by cross-dressing rapists who inject them with the gay virus or whatever the f*** kind of crazy s*** they're worried about, they'll forget about it.

 

The gays are gonna ruin the military because now God isn't on our side for being kind to people.

[HuskyCaucasian]

We all know gays in the military are conscientious of federal legislation, and will wait until all the i's have been dotted, and the t's crossed before they enact their plan of "campifying" the armed forces.

Our Army is going to have the most FABULOUS uniforms...

[Texsox]

I really don't understand how anybody could be against repealing DADT to be honest. Glad it's gone, and glad Mark Kirk was on the right side of this debate.

 

 

DADT was a major step forward at the time and was a necessary step forward in making openly gay servicemen and women possible.

[Rex Kickass]

It's a nice thing.

[Balta1701]

If John McCain gets any more hostile toward his Senate colleagues, they might consider having him go through the metal detector before he enters the Capitol.

 

Saturday's debate on the repeal of the "don't ask, don't tell" policy was only half an hour old when the Arizona Republican burst onto the floor from the cloakroom, hiked up his pants and stalked over to his friend Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.). Ignoring Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.), who had the floor, McCain hectored the men noisily for a few moments, waving his arms for emphasis.

 

When McCain finally stormed off, Durbin shook his head in exasperation and Lieberman smiled. A minute later, McCain returned - he had apparently remembered another element of his grievance - and resumed his harangue.

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[lostfan]

John McCain is a f***ing joke

[Texsox]

Last week I watched Glory five times and the small parallels between the 54th Massachusetts Regiment and this has me wondering, will we be paying gays less than straight soldiers?

[bmags]

with the military now a non-discriminatory organization, their re-integration to college campuses should mean even more good things for the military.

[HeGone33]

I served on active duty with the US Army infantry, and can't tell you the minute a guy in the unit opens up and says he is gay, his life will not be the same within that unit. Best of luck to him, but he would have been better of not being asked, nor telling. Now if her were a clerk, or had a desk job, I can't say much about that. But in an infantry unit, it's a different group of people and people get beatdowns behind closed doors with lights off for many reasons.....often times so they will quit or leave the unit. Im just sayin............

[Y2HH]

Gays aren't even openly accepted in the MLB or NFL, let alone the military. Even with the laws, it's oil and water. I personally don't care what you do in the bedroom or with who, but a lot of people do, including the sports stars we talk about on these websites daily.

[NorthSideSox72]

People just need to grow the f*** up. These same arguments were used upon racial integration of the military, and no doubt there was plenty of problems it caused. Probably still some now. Doesn't mean its right, or that its a valid reason to promote organized bigotry.

 

[Y2HH]

People just need to grow the f*** up. These same arguments were used upon racial integration of the military, and no doubt there was plenty of problems it caused. Probably still some now. Doesn't mean its right, or that its a valid reason to promote organized bigotry.

 

People need to do a lot of things, doesn't mean they will. Whether it be right or wrong is irrelevant.

 

To start a quick list:

 

People need to stop murdering each other.

People need to stop raping women/children (or even men).

 

And I could use a few hundred million dollars, too.

[NorthSideSox72]

People need to do a lot of things, doesn't mean they will. Whether it be right or wrong is irrelevant.

 

To start a quick list:

 

People need to stop murdering each other.

People need to stop raping women/children (or even men).

 

And I could use a few hundred million dollars, too.

lol wut?

 

People in the military who are closed minded about this have a choice. They can act like idiots, or they can get over it. I don't really care which they do, just that they are punished if idiocy becomes illegal acts.

 

So yeah, they will, one way or another, which is how it should be. The military as a whole will mature and adjust.

 

 

[Y2HH]

lol wut?

 

People in the military who are closed minded about this have a choice. They can act like idiots, or they can get over it. I don't really care which they do, just that they are punished if idiocy becomes illegal acts.

 

So yeah, they will, one way or another, which is how it should be. The military as a whole will mature and adjust.

 

I agree, but you said people need to grow up...and that's not really making a point.

 

My counter was people need to do a lot of things, and it doesn't mean they will.

 

There are laws against murder.

 

But it still happens...all the time.

[NorthSideSox72]

I agree, but you said people need to grow up...and that's not really making a point.

 

My counter was people need to do a lot of things, and it doesn't mean they will.

 

There are laws against murder.

 

But it still happens...all the time.

So that's a reason to not have laws against murder?

 

[Y2HH]

So that's a reason to not have laws against murder?

 

No, it's a reason that saying things like "people need to grow up" means nothing, though.

[NorthSideSox72]

No, it's a reason that saying things like "people need to grow up" means nothing, though.

Means everything to me. Feel free to not care though, doesn't matter to me. This is a step in a maturation process in society, I am just expressing my desire for that process to go as quickly as possible.

 

 

[Y2HH]

Means everything to me. Feel free to not care though, doesn't matter to me. This is a step in a maturation process in society, I am just expressing my desire for that process to go as quickly as possible.

 

It's safe to say that the people who aren't committing crimes all share the desire for that process to go as quickly as possible.

 

Doesn't mean it is.

[Soxy]

Means everything to me. Feel free to not care though, doesn't matter to me. This is a step in a maturation process in society, I am just expressing my desire for that process to go as quickly as possible.

 

Homeslice, don't feed the trolls.

[Y2HH]

Homeslice, don't feed the trolls.

 

Wasn't trolling. So calling me a troll is the same as me telling you to STFU.

[NorthSideSox72]

Wasn't trolling. So calling me a troll is the same as me telling you to STFU.

OK, let's just both drop it then.

 

[StrangeSox]

Gays aren't even openly accepted in the MLB or NFL, let alone the military. Even with the laws, it's oil and water. I personally don't care what you do in the bedroom or with who, but a lot of people do, including the sports stars we talk about on these websites daily.

 

What point are you trying to make here?

[Y2HH]

What point are you trying to make here?

 

My point was we allow our favorite sports stars to get away with this exact sort of behavior and rarely think anything of it, but since this specific instance of it (Military involvement) is brought up all the time, it's a big deal. Point is, it's happening everywhere, not just the military.

[StrangeSox]

My point was we allow our favorite sports stars to get away with this exact sort of behavior and rarely think anything of it, but since this specific instance of it (Military involvement) is brought up all the time, it's a big deal. Point is, it's happening everywhere, not just the military.

 

This is about a specific policy. It's about a law in our country and current judicial issues. It's about kicking people out of the military because they're gay.

 

That isn't anything at all like homophobia that's present in sports.

[NorthSideSox72]

My point was we allow our favorite sports stars to get away with this exact sort of behavior and rarely think anything of it, but since this specific instance of it (Military involvement) is brought up all the time, it's a big deal. Point is, it's happening everywhere, not just the military.

1. If that's your point, maybe say that, instead of saying my statement is meaningless, when in truth its just a different point of view.

 

2. I personally don't see why one would decide to just throw up their hands and give up on making a positive change, simply because its not complete and total.