Princess Dye Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 (edited) Last year Peña was a bad version of Andruw Jones, but with a full year of at-bats. No thanks. We're here to contend. Also, Peña fits the roid profile, and while not young to begin with--we all know those guys do not age well unless they continue treatment. Edited December 8, 2010 by Princess Dye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 09:55 AM) That 6 million figure for 2013 is probably evidence that we didn't want to go that 3rd year and we're going to be paying Jake Peavy $4 million to buy out his contract. Great, now we are derferring money too. Why is deferring money a bad thing?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 12:10 PM) Great point about the draft picks. But how often do you get a chance to sign a guy who contended for the MVP at this price? Other teams surely were not given this sweet deal for the third year deferring. If GMs are to take advantage of unique situations and pounce, then I'd call this deferring a little more advantageous than getting boom-or-bust-very-often-bust MLB draft picks. DLee contended for more MVPs than Konerko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 06:01 AM) That ship not only has sailed, but pretty much drowned. Couldn't you have made the exact same argument against Thome for his second half 2009? And he's at least 3-4 years older. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmmbeeer Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I like it, very fair price and creative with the deferred money. I would have preferred DLee, personally, but I don't feel we overpaid compared to Paulie's market value at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 10:03 AM) The Cubs are committed to Carlos Pena for nothing in 2012 or 2013, or 2014-2019, for that matter. The guy batted .196 and got $10M. That is a joke I do nto give a f*** what his BABIP was that is a terrible deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 10:14 AM) DLee contended for more MVPs than Konerko. In the NL. I was all for DLee at like 2yr/16M. But something tells me he gets more than that now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 10:16 AM) I like it, very fair price and creative with the deferred money. I would have preferred DLee, personally, but I don't feel we overpaid compared to Paulie's market value at all. Exactly my thoughts. I've been saying the whole time that Derrek Lee made the most sense but I certainly wasn't going to complain if PK came back. This team is now set offensively and in the rotation, just need to add a few arms to the pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 (edited) So as of right now we have pretty much the same exact offensive lineup from last year except Dunn replaces Kotsay...right? Edited December 8, 2010 by BigSqwert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox2334 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 As like I said earlier whitesox just needed Jr. to get it done. Good job Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 11:19 AM) So as of right now we have pretty much the same exact offensive lineup from last year except Dunn replaces Kotsay...right? Well, we can NEVER replace the grittyness of one Mark Kotsay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 10:19 AM) So as of right now we have pretty much the same exact offensive lineup from last year except Dunn replaces Kotsay...right? and Morel replaces Teahan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 10:19 AM) So as of right now we have pretty much the same exact offensive lineup from last year except Dunn replaces Kotsay...right? Morel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 10:20 AM) and Morel replaces Teahan. QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 10:20 AM) Morel. Is that a lock or does he have to earn it in spring training? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 10:19 AM) So as of right now we have pretty much the same exact offensive lineup from last year except Dunn replaces Kotsay...right? Other than third base, yea. I doubt were going to see Vizquel or Teahen starting there most the year. My money is on it being Morel's job to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 11:19 AM) So as of right now we have pretty much the same exact offensive lineup from last year except Dunn replaces Kotsay...right? Which is really what we were all hoping for last year anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 11:09 AM) It's 1M per year deferred. Seriously, that is nothing and would never get in the way or any sort of sign or trade. This is where it starts though. Do you think teams mean to get themselves in trouble when they defer money? Then all the sudden you wake up and you're cutting checks to Luis Castillo in 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 10:16 AM) Couldn't you have made the exact same argument against Thome for his second half 2009? And he's at least 3-4 years older. There is/was absolutely no signs about Sox bringing Dye back. I wish him well, I hope he gets on a team and plays regularly, but you don't see teams storming in trying to sign him as he know will play for peanuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 10:21 AM) Is that a lock or does he have to earn it in spring training? Unless he has a terrible spring, the job is probably his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 From Sox source: Reinsdorf played a small role in Konerko talks. Assistant GM Rick Hahn did most of the heavy lifting. - Chuck Garfien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 (edited) Another thing to consider is that contending teams very often give multiyear contracts to aging, still-producing players. That's just one of the responsibilities of being a winning organization these days. Yankees don't get 1 year of Andruw Jones for 500K, and they dont get 1 year of Carlos Peña to be Andruw Jones like at 10M. They pay their older past-allstars a multiyear contract. If Konerko had taken one year, there's also no guarantee we would've been able to sign some all-star 1B the following year. Looking at our pre-Dunn FA record of late, I'd say it's actually very unlikely. Edited December 8, 2010 by Princess Dye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 09:58 AM) I think I might like your Sig better than mine Thanks yo, though yours has a nice amount of hilarity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty22hotty Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 At first I wasnt looking forward to him being re-signed but his contract is basically 30.5M/3 (12,12,6.5) with the extra 7M/7 being a write off... I imagine after the Pena and Konerko signings that Lee and LaRouche (Plan B and C) are easily looking at 20M/2 contracts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 10:19 AM) So as of right now we have pretty much the same exact offensive lineup from last year except Dunn replaces Kotsay...right? right, and the Kotsay to Dunn improvement is such an insane leap. I'm OK with the numbers, I wanted PK back at something reasonable and this seems it. We'll see if this is the final line-up though, KW still has over 3 months left, wouldn't be surprised if some other team bit on Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 11:13 AM) Why is deferring money a bad thing?? Because before you know it, you're paying out a bunch of money to players that are no longer on your baseball team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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