SoxFan1 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 EDITED. Jayston Stark and Jon Heyman reporting that Lee deal is close and that he'll be leaving a lot of money on the table if he does choose Philly. Halladay Lee Hamels Oswalt is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Damn how do the Yankees feel this winter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 wow, what a tremendous rotation they'll have, arguably best of all time... the panic in NYY land must be insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted December 14, 2010 Author Share Posted December 14, 2010 This is incorrect. It was a fake Ken Rosenthal account identical to his verified account. No tentative agreement. Nonetheless, Lee is strongly leaning toward signing with Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Wow. If I am the Rangers I let him go to the NL. The Phillies do not even need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Phillies would definitely have best rotation of all time. And if Lee signs w/ them, this may set up well for Texas and Yankees maybe trying to get Buehrle or Floyd from the Sox if they both need a starter desperately. Grienke might be too expensive, trade wise, for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 While we like Cliff Lee leaving our League so we dont have to deal with him, if the the Yanks lose out on him they will throw $$ at relievers left on the open market. That will all but end the likelihood that the White Sox are able to sign bullpen help this off season. So which is it exactly that we want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted December 14, 2010 Author Share Posted December 14, 2010 Joel Sherman saying the Yankees are OUT on Lee, per Lee's agent. Heyman reporting the Yankees final offer was 150 over 7 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Lee signs w/ Phillies. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/12/agre...-cliff-lee.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (joeynach @ Dec 13, 2010 -> 10:51 PM) While we like Cliff Lee leaving our League so we dont have to deal with him, if the the Yanks lose out on him they will throw $$ at relievers left on the open market. That will all but end the likelihood that the White Sox are able to sign bullpen help this off season. So which is it exactly that we want. perhaps NYY will just get a high priced reliever (Soriano) and a good lefty...which is $$-wise probably not what we're going to be competing for. If we sign two relievers instead of acquire by trade....I'd see us ending up with a moderately priced decent righty and a shot-in-the-dark lefty. Edited December 14, 2010 by Princess Dye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.J. Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Looks like this is a done deal: http://trsullivan.mlblogs.com/archives/201...o_philadel.html http://twitter.com/Joelsherman1/status/14544236716236800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted December 14, 2010 Author Share Posted December 14, 2010 Lee could be leaving up to $50 million on the table. Yankees offered 6 yrs, 138 million with a 7th yr option to make it $154 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 The Phillies might have the two best pitchers in baseball on their staff now. It doesn't hurt that they have Roy Oswalt and Cole Hammels too. Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Dec 13, 2010 -> 10:31 PM) Phillies would definitely have best rotation of all time. And if Lee signs w/ them, this may set up well for Texas and Yankees maybe trying to get Buehrle or Floyd from the Sox if they both need a starter desperately. Grienke might be too expensive, trade wise, for them. Mayhaps: Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman #Whitesox (who like #Yankees prospects) would consider moving Jackson/Floyd, #Marlins Nolasco (Girardi managed him). that is level available 13 minutes ago Edited December 14, 2010 by DirtySox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 The Phillies dumping Lee a year ago doesn't look too bad right now (regardless of what you think of the talent): lose Lee for a year and get three prospects in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Watching that Phillies pitching staff vs. that Red Sox offense in the World Series should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 It's up on mlb.com and phillies.com. I don't like Philly's offense though. Now we know why they want a Carlos Quentin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted December 14, 2010 Author Share Posted December 14, 2010 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 14, 2010 -> 12:10 AM) Watching that Phillies pitching staff vs. that Red Sox offense in the World Series should be interesting. I kinda thought the same thing. It's like the Miami Heat all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Ok, so what will it take for the Sox to fight against the Sawks or Phils? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 14, 2010 -> 12:07 AM) The Phillies dumping Lee a year ago doesn't look too bad right now (regardless of what you think of the talent): lose Lee for a year and get three prospects in return. They got 3 prospects in return, but they also gave up prospects. D'Arnould, Taylor, and Kyle Drabek (who, when combined, are much better than what they received). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted December 14, 2010 Author Share Posted December 14, 2010 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 14, 2010 -> 12:12 AM) Ok, so what will it take for the Sox to fight against the Sawks or Phils? Injuries to those teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 On paper, they're clearly the best. But in reality, who knows. I remember ESPN was talking about our 2006 rotation being among the best ever, and we all know how that worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 13, 2010 -> 11:12 PM) Ok, so what will it take for the Sox to fight against the Sawks or Phils? Honestly a good bullpen. I think the Sox have the best balance of the two teams. Philly has awesome starting pitching(not just great), but their bullpen is not better than ours and neither is their offense. Boston has a great offensive team now even without Beltre. Their starting pitching is questionable as well as their bullpen. I like Lackey alot still along with Lester. Beckett is a question mark. I'm not yet sold on Clay and Dice K is Bust K to me. The Sox just need to solidify their bullpens and I think they can compete. Also, Carlos Quentin will also have to improve. From there, I think the Sox have a damn good chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Wow, curveball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Dec 14, 2010 -> 05:16 AM) Honestly a good bullpen. I think the Sox have the best balance of the two teams. Philly has awesome starting pitching(not just great), but their bullpen is not better than ours and neither is their offense. Boston has a great offensive team now even without Beltre. Their starting pitching is questionable as well as their bullpen. I like Lackey alot still along with Lester. Beckett is a question mark. I'm not yet sold on Clay and Dice K is Bust K to me. Clay is way better than Lackey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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