Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 I realize what GMs are faced with concerning relievers. But facts are facts. Kalapse has broken this down with precise efficiency. Crain better be good. Or he's going to become a whipping boy of Podsednik like proportions around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 18, 2010 -> 12:24 PM) Not really. He's due to be bad in year 1, which if he did the alternating good and bad, make him worth his paycheck 1 out of 3 seasons. Maybe the guy has figured something out. I sure hope so. This was the one guy I personally would have stayed away from this offseason. You pay him for 2010 which he was lights out for June, July and August. Just about unhittable. He wasn't very good the rest of the year, had shoulder surgery in 2007 and shoulder issues in 2009. At least its not an obnoxious number they are paying him. I mean, he's had 5 at least decent seasons out of 7, so I'm not really sure where you're getting this alternating between good and bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Did the sox officially announce this guy yet? If not why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 QUOTE (quickman @ Dec 19, 2010 -> 10:30 AM) Did the sox officially announce this guy yet? If not why not? Ever since the rumors came out, they said announcement early next week as in tomorrow or Tuesday probably. (Pending physical) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 QUOTE (quickman @ Dec 19, 2010 -> 10:30 AM) Did the sox officially announce this guy yet? If not why not? His website has in in a Sox cap. I'm sure whatever the hold up, its just a formality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 19, 2010 -> 11:41 AM) His website has in in a Sox cap. I'm sure whatever the hold up, its just a formality. Offseason travel for the physical is always difficult, especially this week. The only reason this deal wouldn't go through is if there's somesthing majorly wrong with his arm that no one knows about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 19, 2010 -> 10:41 AM) His website has in in a Sox cap. I'm sure whatever the hold up, its just a formality. Caption this photo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ Dec 19, 2010 -> 10:25 PM) Caption this photo... Oh boy, I think you just ruined any chance I had of actually liking this guy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ Dec 19, 2010 -> 10:25 PM) Caption this photo... World's ugliest 5-way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 What was reported long ago is now official. Finally. Crain to the Sox 3-years, $13 mil. $4 mil in '11. $4.5 mil each in '12 and '13. - Doug Padilla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 $108.55M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 20, 2010 -> 01:08 PM) What was reported long ago is now official. Finally. Crain to the Sox 3-years, $13 mil. $4 mil in '11. $4.5 mil each in '12 and '13. - Doug Padilla I like the deal. Hopefully Crain will do for the Sox like he did for the Twins...especially against the Twins! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Dec 20, 2010 -> 02:02 PM) I like the deal. Hopefully Crain will do for the Sox like he did for the Twins...especially against the Twins! I can't like a deal in which we give a non-elite relief pitcher 3 guaranteed years. But I like it as far as 2011 goes. Just have to pray after that. Edited December 20, 2010 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balfanman Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 20, 2010 -> 02:08 PM) What was reported long ago is now official. Finally. Crain to the Sox 3-years, $13 mil. $4 mil in '11. $4.5 mil each in '12 and '13. - Doug Padilla The Tribune article said 14 million. I like the deal overall, but this makes it a little less palatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ Dec 19, 2010 -> 10:25 PM) Caption this photo... The ladies are hotter in the Windy City, Jesse. Don't fret, it won't be that bad anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 20, 2010 -> 02:18 PM) I can't like a deal in which we give a non-elite relief pitcher 3 guaranteed years. But I like it as far as 2011 goes. Just have to pray after that. I suppose it could turn into a Linebrink nightmare, but we can only hope that doesn't happen...and pretend we never heard of Scott Linebrink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 QUOTE (balfanman @ Dec 20, 2010 -> 02:47 PM) The Tribune article said 14 million. I like the deal overall, but this makes it a little less palatable. Tribune is wrong. $13M. Merkin/Official piece. Cowley/SunTimes piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 20, 2010 -> 04:13 PM) Tribune is wrong. $13M. Merkin/Official piece. Cowley/SunTimes piece. Any chance that $1 million is a buyout at the end? Or performance incentives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balfanman Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 20, 2010 -> 04:13 PM) Tribune is wrong. $13M. Merkin/Official piece. Cowley/SunTimes piece. The Tribune has now changed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Hopefully this 'chance to close some games' is just a pr move trying to convince him to sign here. Don't want no part of closing by committee, after the DH committee fiasco we went through last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 20, 2010 -> 03:27 PM) Hopefully this 'chance to close some games' is just a pr move trying to convince him to sign here. Don't want no part of closing by committee, after the DH committee fiasco we went through last year. 1. DH by committee wasn't a failure, the players IN IT were the failure. 2. Closer by committee is not the same animal, at all. They really are not comparable situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 20, 2010 -> 03:35 PM) 1. DH by committee wasn't a failure, the players IN IT were the failure. 2. Closer by committee is not the same animal, at all. They really are not comparable situations. Yet the DH by committee idea was quickly replaced by Adam DUNN Closer by committee could work, just color me skeptical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 The reason why closers by committee have failed in the past is the exact same reasons that DH by committee failed last year - the players involved were simply not good enough to get the job done. Crain is a good pitcher, Sale is a good pitcher, and Thornton is a good pitcher, and they'll be called upon differently to get different hitters out. Right now, the Sox have 2 good lefties and 2 good righties in the pen, and if they are going to go by a committee approach, I have no problem with that at all. I think they can probably look to bring in one more lefty and perhaps have a 3 lefty bullpen, but really I am perfectly content with everything that has happened this offseason. And quite frankly, I'd rather the Sox spend $13 million on a pitcher who is likely to fall apart as opposed to the $30-36 million that someone will spend on Pavano, who is a pitcher that is likely to fall apart, or the $120 million on Cliff Lee who is likely going to have 1-2 rough years mixed in there. $13 million isn't untradeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ Dec 19, 2010 -> 10:25 PM) Caption this photo... There are 13,000,004 reasons why Jesse Crain left Minnesota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 21, 2010 -> 05:51 AM) There are 13,000,004 reasons why Jesse Crain left Minnesota. Maybe they'll grow into it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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